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by Whisperer on 28 December 2004 - 15:12

Hey Knightenhaus Peg, when your list is complete and your dogs are guaranteed to live forever, will you please post magic formular?

by country-boy on 29 December 2004 - 02:12

"Being a first time buyer, chances are, you will get a middle to poor quality pup from all the breeders there. The best are reserved the breeders themselves, then for show homes" Peggy thats pretty much a bunch of crap, I wouldn't pay much attention to that. There are plenty of breeders that sell all the pups in the litter and "first come first served". Its a buyers market now, many german breeders are having trouble selling their pups. Country-Boy

knightenhaus

by knightenhaus on 29 December 2004 - 09:12

Ok guys...No I don't expect my dogs to live forever. But I AM working to try to keep as many genetic problems out of my pups that I possibly can. Isn't that at least a good start? We keep all records of the dogs we produce and if anything comes up in a certain breeding, obviously some of the genetics are recessives and both male and female will have to carry the genes for the disease in order for it to present in a puppy. In that case, if we breed either male or female again, it would never again be to the same mate that caused the genetic problem in that one pup. What I want to do is to make sure that the purchasers are going to get a healthy dog, whether it is this puppy or the next. Maybe I'm wrong...but I"m NOT the only one doing this guys! All I can say is I've had good luck so far and I know a lot of it is luck and a lot of it is research. I've had one case of Pancreatic Ins. and 3 cases of hip dysplasia, 3 cases of elbow dysplasia in the last 9 years. Maybe I"m doing something right? ;) I've gotten several contacts for importers through this message board and on one of my email lists...Thanks to all who have helped and given me ideas and links.. Peggy

by MichaelB on 17 May 2007 - 02:05

Hello Peggy... I am going to zug Germany next month and wondered if you found any good breeders to work with over there. How much trouble is it to buy and bring home a pup. what about customs and airlines?

Regards,

 


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 17 May 2007 - 03:05

It's interesting to hear that most breeders across the pond don't offer any kind of guarantee.  I personally wouldn't want to buy a puppy without a good guarantee.  In the game of "puppy roulette" I'm clearly jinxed.  I've had poor temperments, soft ears, one testicle,... oy!  I'm just waiting for my young male to turn 2 so I can get final OFA's.  I figure I'm due for bad hips next! 

However, as to the recommendation to buy an older dog instead of taking a chance on a puppy, that's no magic bullet either.  Two years I bought a very well pedigreed GSD from an excellent kennel in Germany and the dog turned out to be a spook.  Although I got a refund for the cost of the dog, I still lost $1,000 on shipping, fees, vet bills (the dog was sick with I got him), etc.

I decided I'd rather buy a puppy and take my chances with his development, provided I had a good guarantee from the breeder.  I wrote my own guarantee and asked the breeder to sign it, which he did, and darn good thing too because the first pup I got only had one testicle descend.  I got a replacement with zero hassle. 

My husband is getting into SchH (yeeha!) and he's decided on getting a Mali.  We talked about the puppy vs. young adult choice, but we decided we'd rather buy a puppy and start with a fresh slate so that we can be in control of the dog's environment, socializing, exercise, and diet.

Nevertheless I'm sure there's been many satisfied customers who have imported a pup from European countries, with or without guarantees.  Perhaps some of these folks can relate their positive experiences, and any suggestions for a smooth transaction???

Yvette


VomFelsenHof

by VomFelsenHof on 17 May 2007 - 04:05

Peggy,

Do you have a private email address? There is not one listed on your profile. I know a German breeder who does guarantee pups.  :)

 -Melanie


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 17 May 2007 - 13:05

Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya chances. I'll guarantee anything if ya pays me enough.

LOL

SS 


Silbersee

by Silbersee on 17 May 2007 - 16:05

The reason German breeders do not offer a guarantee is because German Consumer Protection Law is already giving extensive warrantees. Yes, dogs are considered merchandise when it comes to law, unfortunately. The only problem for overseas buyers is that they have to enforce their claims in the German court system. And that is a long and expensive effort and not worth a refund of a puppy.

Chris 


by ScrewedByBroker on 17 May 2007 - 20:05

Oh My God! VomFelsenhof, I can't believe you have the nerve to even post on this forum! And yet here you are, publicly enticing someone to email you "privately" as you always do, to lure them into another one of your import schemes? How dare you!

What about the dog YOU contacted ME about "privately" in November 2006 about? Talking me into buying this female dog you "knew" about, through a person you "knew" of in Germany? Talking me into sending you $3,1042.00 over 5 mths ago and STILL you have not sent me my dog? Where's MY money? Where's my dog?

How dare you try your sneaky schemes again with your supposed German dogs and puppies, let alone on this forum? What you do on your own website is your business, but looking for victims here is too much. Why don't you crawl back in the hole you have been hiding in, it's where you belong in My Opinion!

Screwed By Broker


sueincc

by sueincc on 17 May 2007 - 20:05

There are many reputable breeders in europe - they title their dogs - they have studied genetics - the proof is in what they produce.  Much better to import one of these "unguaranteed" puppies than to buy a dud regardless of what the guarantees are. 






 


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