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dAWgESOME

by dAWgESOME on 13 November 2008 - 19:11

Sort of an opinion poll here- Do you train to trial or do you trial to test your training...?   My 2 cents is, and bear with me as my mood is a little foul at the moment, I think winter blues may have arrived early for me this year.... but back to the point... Training to trial seems at first glance the right thing to do a very natural order of progression, but then... (and this comes only from my personal experiences which are very limited and what I have observed in some of the people around me) it seems to get very dishonest.... The little "cheats" & "tweaks" to make it work/cover shit up/not loose too many points.  Then on the other side of the coin you get the dedicated weekend warrior who is out there doing it but getting no where fast who eventually may enter here and there might do o.k. then loses interest.  Yes, I do have a chip on my shoulder today(attitude disclaimer) but I thought this topic could make for interesting discussion.    So what do you think about training to trial or trialing to test your training...? Ready, set, GO!

by aero993 on 13 November 2008 - 19:11

When I tarining with T Floyd many years ago. He always stressed, train  your dog then find a trial.


by Teri on 13 November 2008 - 19:11

You have me beat with experience as I've just started down this path.  I am doing this to build better obedience in my dogs and for my dogs, while they have SAR jobs, they need more and really enjoy it.  They  come from German working lines with Schutzhund trained and titles ancestors so it seems to be very natural for them.  I am really enjoying it but sometimes I get confused and frustrated, I would love to title them but am happy to learn and enjoy the new experience with my babies. :o)

Teri  


jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 13 November 2008 - 23:11

i train to trial, but in doing so i make my training more difficult than  a trial would ever be.   for instance,  tossing the dumbell into a group of people and have the dog retrieve it.    if your training is harder than a trial would be,  trialing is easy.    also if you are making new things up during your training your dog wont get bored with doing the same thing all the time.   when you go onto the trial field your dog is not sure what is coming up next. 

john


PowerHaus

by PowerHaus on 14 November 2008 - 00:11

Train to trial but there are also little things you can do to "help" your dog and give it a hint.  Like a little hick-up when you halt!  The hick-up is so quiet that only you and the dog can hear it!  It serves as a marker to mark the behaviour you are asking.  A lot of upper level handlers use little things like that and I learned that from one of them.  Wheather it works all the time or not, I do not know but I guess it all depends on how competitive you are.  If you are extremely competitive then you might "help" your dog with these, if you are just out there having a good time then have a good time and do it for the LOVE OF THE DOG!

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

 


wuzzup

by wuzzup on 14 November 2008 - 00:11

jeanne


wuzzup

by wuzzup on 14 November 2008 - 00:11

that hick up will get you chewed up by my dog.cheating is the word she is referring to in the dog world, get caught using little tells and you get disqualified


wuzzup

by wuzzup on 14 November 2008 - 00:11

go longhorns! sooners are loser's


poseidon

by poseidon on 14 November 2008 - 00:11

Hiya dAWgeSOME,

From the breeder’s prospective “training to trial” would seem more appropriate especially for  brooding bitches where a title is sufficient.  More often than not, male dogs have to prove their worth as potential studs by entering in high competition.

From top trainers/ handlers prospective, “trialing to test one’s training”  seem to be the case in the selection process for Regionals, Nationals, and the World Championships.

Hope it answers your query.


wuzzup

by wuzzup on 14 November 2008 - 00:11

it's all sport and money. either you in it for fun or you are in it for money. fun with your dog is most important .(train you dog to save your life) not for titles.  unless it's money and fame you are after.






 


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