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by Two Moons on 31 March 2009 - 01:03
A Cobra can eat three Vets a day without slowing down.
The real snake,
I dunno, win lose or draw I'd rather have mine in Red.
by MaxBear on 31 March 2009 - 01:03
TM.....stick with GSD's....LOL
by animules on 31 March 2009 - 01:03
I am very happy with my life thank you very much.
Do not ask questions you are not ready to hear honest answers for. Especially from some of the more honest, helpful, mentoring dog people around here.
Do not ask questions you are not ready to hear honest answers for. Especially from some of the more honest, helpful, mentoring dog people around here.
by Bob McKown on 31 March 2009 - 02:03
Two Moons:
When putting matching tires on both cars the corvette will out handle and striaght line excelleration of the cobra because of the shorter wheel base of the cobra and more torque of body and chassis of the cobra it can not transfer power to the ground to support the lighter car chassis shorter car stiffer frame = less enegry transfered to the ground to increase excelleration which = cobra blows chow
When putting matching tires on both cars the corvette will out handle and striaght line excelleration of the cobra because of the shorter wheel base of the cobra and more torque of body and chassis of the cobra it can not transfer power to the ground to support the lighter car chassis shorter car stiffer frame = less enegry transfered to the ground to increase excelleration which = cobra blows chow
by MaxBear on 31 March 2009 - 02:03
TM.....now the Cobra is strong....and it hangs with the ZO6....but run circles around it...not on your life...the ZO6 kills it. Kinda like trying to compare Showlines and Working Lines...they both have their place...and each excels in certain areas...but circles...not even close.......
ZO6 Vette Sorry for the size...darn thing is hard to upload pic's too....oh well....much more fun then fighting about Shiloh's and GSD's...LOL Faster Too!!!
by Red Sable on 31 March 2009 - 02:03
Gotta love that corvette!
by luvdemdogs on 31 March 2009 - 02:03
This may be gsd message board - but I am interested in reading about the Kings and Shilohs - not just because they're related to GSDs, but because the entire politic and socio and subcultural nuances of the discussion is quite enlightening.
Thank goodness there is still freedom of speech. :)
Thank goodness there is still freedom of speech. :)
by wuzzup on 31 March 2009 - 02:03
OK ya all like the nit pick. While the Shiloh shepherd of today is not a German shepherd ,Back IN the day AKC registered lots of German shepherds with names like Shiloh's gun smoke shadow ...The point being they were AKC German shepherds much Like today it would be compared to buying a Dragon German shepherd . If ya took out the Dragon it would still be a German Shepherd with the AKC .Now I don't know if there was a kennel named Shiloh ,I never searched that much on it .All I know for sure is any German shepherd listed with the AKC With the word Shiloh in the name is a 100 percent German shepherd .Like it or not . Now I for one could care less what a person has for a dog .I myself do not want a German shepherd mixed with a husky or any other dog . That being said please keep an open mind on the old so called Shiloh German Shepherd and the new mixed Shiloh. And in no way would I compare a Dragon GSD abilities to a AKC Shiloh's ability 's All bloodlines have their place and purpose .Now if ya all don't like the American bred dogs you are never going to like Tina's dogs from her start to her finish. That is if Tina is finished with what she is doing . By the way I don't like the czech bred GSD .
by Mystere on 31 March 2009 - 03:03
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by Sunsilver on 31 March 2009 - 03:03
"If you do reply, remember that "U suk go hom" is not a rebuttal in the German philosophical tradition."
Actually, wuzzup, I believe that WAS a request for people to be polite, and it had me LMAO, because it's so true of the sort of response some people on this board might make!
Wuzzup has it right. Tina split with the AKC in the early 90's, and since then no true Shiloh Shepherd can have AKC papers, although all Shilohs prior to that time WERE AKC registered GSD's, bred under the Shiloh Kennel name. My bitch has the old Shiloh lines in her pedigree, about 6 or 7 generations back. (I didn't know it at the time I bought her, though.)
HOWEVER, some of the breeders who split with Tina are breeding Shilohs to AKC registered GSD's and claiming they are purebred Shiloh Shepherds. They are also showing these mutts in ARBA shows, which is COMPLETELY AGAINST THE RULES!!
Yes, I'm mad about that, and other GSD owners should be, too!
As for SAR ability, google the name 'Gandalf'. He's a full blooded Shiloh, who rescued a Boy Scout a couple of years ago. I believe it was the very first time he'd been called out on a real search, too.
This dog here, KariAnn of Marquest http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/526097.html was an extremely talented SAR dog, and one of the most intelligent dogs Tina ever owned. In 1977, a 7 months pregnant Tina was using her to search for a little girl who'd been lost in the Adirondacks. Kari wanted to go up a steep hill, and Tina couldn't manage it, due to her very pregnant conditon. She turned Kari over to the team leader, Don, and Kari led him right to the missing girl.
And no, not EVERY dog has the ability to do SAR, as anyone who's trained for SAR will tell you!
KariAnn was bred to Shiloh Emmview's Grey Express (Shep) who was responsible for saving Tina's daughter's life, when she stopped breathing as an infant. She would have been another crib death statistic if Shep hadn't jumped on Tina's bed, to wake her up.
Just a couple of the reasons I like these dogs...
I know there's a lot of negative stuff out there about Tina, but no one has ever given me solid proof that it's true, beyond a couple of reports to the BBB. Her kennel's been in business for something like 40 years, and there's sure to have been a few disappointed customers during all that time.
I"ve met the lady in person, I've met many of her breeders and friends, and they all seem to be good people. Fred Lanting judged the Shioh Homecoming last year, and it would be hard to find anyone more knowledgeable about the GSD than Fred. Yet, he's friends with Tina, and a fan of the Shiloh.
No, I'm not about to 'drink the koolaid' as some people have said. I like to make up my own mind about things. Some people think the current GSD is the greatest dog on the planet. Hey, I've owned four of them in my lifetime, so I'm not exactly neutral on the issue, either. But, I see how the breed has changed in the last 40 years, and I see a LOT of stuff I don't like. And I speak out about it, too, which annoys those of you who think the breed is perfect.
Am I running it down to elevate the Shiloh?? HELL NO!
I don't think the Shiloh is perfect, either. But it's Tina's vision, and I respect her for what she's done. She liked the style of German Shepherd that was around during the 60's. So do I. I'd love nothing better than to be able to have a kennel full of Bodo von Lierberg's offspring. I understand EXACTLY why Tina did what she did. These
Actually, wuzzup, I believe that WAS a request for people to be polite, and it had me LMAO, because it's so true of the sort of response some people on this board might make!
Wuzzup has it right. Tina split with the AKC in the early 90's, and since then no true Shiloh Shepherd can have AKC papers, although all Shilohs prior to that time WERE AKC registered GSD's, bred under the Shiloh Kennel name. My bitch has the old Shiloh lines in her pedigree, about 6 or 7 generations back. (I didn't know it at the time I bought her, though.)
HOWEVER, some of the breeders who split with Tina are breeding Shilohs to AKC registered GSD's and claiming they are purebred Shiloh Shepherds. They are also showing these mutts in ARBA shows, which is COMPLETELY AGAINST THE RULES!!
Yes, I'm mad about that, and other GSD owners should be, too!
As for SAR ability, google the name 'Gandalf'. He's a full blooded Shiloh, who rescued a Boy Scout a couple of years ago. I believe it was the very first time he'd been called out on a real search, too.
This dog here, KariAnn of Marquest http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/526097.html was an extremely talented SAR dog, and one of the most intelligent dogs Tina ever owned. In 1977, a 7 months pregnant Tina was using her to search for a little girl who'd been lost in the Adirondacks. Kari wanted to go up a steep hill, and Tina couldn't manage it, due to her very pregnant conditon. She turned Kari over to the team leader, Don, and Kari led him right to the missing girl.
And no, not EVERY dog has the ability to do SAR, as anyone who's trained for SAR will tell you!
KariAnn was bred to Shiloh Emmview's Grey Express (Shep) who was responsible for saving Tina's daughter's life, when she stopped breathing as an infant. She would have been another crib death statistic if Shep hadn't jumped on Tina's bed, to wake her up.
Just a couple of the reasons I like these dogs...
I know there's a lot of negative stuff out there about Tina, but no one has ever given me solid proof that it's true, beyond a couple of reports to the BBB. Her kennel's been in business for something like 40 years, and there's sure to have been a few disappointed customers during all that time.
I"ve met the lady in person, I've met many of her breeders and friends, and they all seem to be good people. Fred Lanting judged the Shioh Homecoming last year, and it would be hard to find anyone more knowledgeable about the GSD than Fred. Yet, he's friends with Tina, and a fan of the Shiloh.
No, I'm not about to 'drink the koolaid' as some people have said. I like to make up my own mind about things. Some people think the current GSD is the greatest dog on the planet. Hey, I've owned four of them in my lifetime, so I'm not exactly neutral on the issue, either. But, I see how the breed has changed in the last 40 years, and I see a LOT of stuff I don't like. And I speak out about it, too, which annoys those of you who think the breed is perfect.
Am I running it down to elevate the Shiloh?? HELL NO!
I don't think the Shiloh is perfect, either. But it's Tina's vision, and I respect her for what she's done. She liked the style of German Shepherd that was around during the 60's. So do I. I'd love nothing better than to be able to have a kennel full of Bodo von Lierberg's offspring. I understand EXACTLY why Tina did what she did. These
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