white dogs - Page 3

I was horrified the first time I saw a panda shepherd...and I'm really sad to know that I come from the same state as the "origional breeder" does! freaks me out, anyhow...the panda is either a true mutation or it's a mutt. and VHDOOSEK9,I agree that in the snow, a white shepherd would make a good gaurd dog because it would be harder to see them, however that was not the intention that breeders had in mind when they bred white shepherds specifically, the reason why I say that white shepherds are bred for a different purpose than regular GSDs is because they were bred just so families could have a shepherd that was all white, not for any real working purpose, just a pet purpose. the typical white shepherd does not have the temperament for protection work at all, they tend too be more sedate...better for just laying around the house and looking pretty. if you check out that AWSA site that I posted it even says on there that their white shepherds "has a more compliant temperament" on their FAQ page

those Panda dogs look like they have cattle dog in them with the spots and the blue eyes...they are cute as puppies...they are expensive too..I can't believe they can sell them for that much!

The white shepherd has been officially recognized by the FCI as a separate breed, since late 2002. It is called the White Swiss Shepherd Dog. FCI Standard No. 347. For those interested, the standard is posted here: www.fci.be/uploaded_files/347a2002_en.doc Basis for accepting the whites as a separate breed by the FCI was that in the early years of the GSD there had been whites that contributed to the foundation of the breed. Grandsire Greif of the GSD foundation sire Hektor Linksrhein - also called Horand von Grafrath, was white. A Horand son, Champion Hektor von Schwaben also came from a white line. Berno von der Seewiese, also a Horand progeny, born 1913, was the first white GSD registered with the SV. (source: http://www.hundezeitung.de/editorial/editorial65.html)

I once had a book (National Geographic I think) that had a picture of a white Shepherd that was a police K9. Also, I'm going on memory of a long forgotten conversation here, but, wasn't there a white Shepherd that went to Nationals (Schutzhund) years ago? He had a junior handler or something like that? I could be *way* off on that one though. I also know someone who is breeding them for service dogs, apparently they have a better public image than a darker colored Shepherd. I do know they are registerable through AKC, though not allowed in the conformation ring, and there are some white shepherd specific registries/clubs that you may want to check out. Anyway, my preference is dark black sable working dogs, but to each his own. Sorry this couldn't have been more helpful. Ang

My father had a white shepherd in the sixties when I was a child we even took him with us to Africa when we were there and back a few years later. Pictures of him show excellent conformation but thats about all i know other than he kept folks honest in their intentions towards us and our property but was a sweetheart to the family even allowing our unrehabable skunk to jump on his head when he was laying down. This was one of the two PET gsds we had the other was an ex police k9. I have always heard that before they were allowed to be registered many folks did so by simply filling out akc forms and filling in that they were colored like any other pup, ours came from a strict standards breeder as a pet cull for being white is all i know.

The panda site claims the original panda came out of two normal GSD parents and proved it with DNA. It appears now they can breed a panda to normal GSD's and get panda pups. The owners of the normal GSD studs they use should be ashamed of themselves for breeding their GSD to a panda. Its a shame someone is breeding a genetic fluke like that.

I can try to find the site again but there was a problem with the DNA. Yes the panda pups do belong to the dogs stated but apparently a few generations back something didn't quite match up. They certainly didn't seem to want to share that particular bit of information though. I still think that something got in with a bitch somewhere in that line. The color of coat and the shape of those heads just don't look anything like a shepherd. Aside from that, the gene seems dominant and I just don't see how a dominant gene could suddenly show up. I have heard rumor that panda was an original color but I can't find a single bit of proof on that. I do hear from people who have bought puppies from them that they do great work with their normal dogs and that those mutations are great in obedience and agility so I can't say they're all bad but still. They should not be making more of those dogs to, in my opinion, make a buck. These will be the biggest thing since sliced bread but there will be a rescue created for them shortly.