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by hodie on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

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RLHAR

by RLHAR on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

No longer relevant.


RLHAR

by RLHAR on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

I agree Jenni, no threadjacking. :D

Hodie, I do understand what you're saying but I suppose what I mean by resources, I'm not talking financial.  I mean owners retaining ownership of their dog while they work with local rescues, who could then act as a hub to work with local breeders, other rescue facilities, trainers, etc to help properly place dogs.  This way, it's not a case of dogs just being dropped off on a Rescue to shoulder the financial as well as the placing burden.

I'm an owner, currently working with my local rescue groups, local breeders and my vet to get this dog properly placed.  Could I be yelling about how I got hoodwinked into buying the dog in the first place?  Could I fuss about the original importer being completely unwilling to help me now or take the dog back?  I could do both but it's a waste of energy I'd rather use to get him his new and more proper home.

That's all I'm saying.


sueincc

by sueincc on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

The dog mentioned by the original poster was imported, not bred by Ray Reid.  RLHAR, I commend you for being responsible and working to place the dog yourself.  I wish more people were like you.  The responsibility,  for rehoming the dog rightfully falls to the importer/breeder if their dog/puppy purchaser can't keep the dog and won't or can't do the right thing by finding a suitable home for the dog themselves.  Also the AVERAGE dog purchaser, who buys a dog as a pet,  usually doesn't have the contacts or resources to find a suitable home anyways.  I think it's unconciounable for a breeder/importer to let someone like Steph clean up after themselves or their buyers without AT LEAST funding the dog while it's in her care by a SIZEABLE  donation to her rescue.  If breeders/importers are going to make a living off of dogs, and not take them back when they don't work out with their purchaser,  then they need to be the ones to step up to the plate and financially support the rescues.  It they can't afford it then they have no business breeding/importing.   Why should they make any money off a dog that ends up in a rescue?  Something is very wrong with that picture.

Also Jennie78, if you are implying that breeding for sport automatically makes shitty dogs then you probably also know that I will vehemently disagree with you.   Most sport GSDs are also great family dogs - ask the people that live with them.    As with anything else that is alive, sometimes bad dogs crop up - it's bound to happen, not every dog turns out as it looks like it will on paper even with those breeders who think they are the ones breeding "real" dogs.  The issue is taking responsiblity when the dog doesn't turn out or is placed in the wrong home.  To paint all breeding for sport as shitty is just stupid and uninformed.

by hodie on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

 

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

Hodie said:
 "People do not want to be educated. And why should rescues be the ones doing all the education and work anyway?

EXACTLY!  Leave Steph alone. You have NO IDEA how ignorant your average dog owner is. At Christmas, I was talking to my sister-in-law's SIL. They have a 'doodle' mix, which, fortunately, they got for free due to a deformed foot. I got up on my high horse about breeders breeding these mutts, and people paying HUGE bucks for them, and how stupid it was, especially when the parents usually have no health testing and no titles to prove they're good for anything. She listened to me for a bit, then she got up and changed seats. I think it was about the time I told her that the really bad breeders would send the pups with shedding coats to the animal shelter at the tender age of one day old, where they would be euthanized. She just DID NOT want to hear it.


Jenni wrote: "HOW IS THIS A GREAT DOG? Forgive me for making waves, but it seems to me RLHAR got stuck with a dog that IMO shouldn't exist. If you have all that drive, PLUS a clear head, then you need to work on management. But she states he hasn't a clear thought in his head. So I ask, really, what good is he?

Honestly, I feel sorry for the dog. He's the vicitm of breeding for points and ego done by people too stupid to understand the ramifications of their actions. He is damn lucky he ended up where he is and that she is trying so hard to rehome him properly. How many people would bother?"


Oh, I'm not going to say a word, Jenni, because I TOTALLY AGREE!! 








by hodie on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

 

 


by 1doggie2 on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

Dog without a clarity in his head, I have a daughter that I swore in raising her she was also without it and was a danger to herself and anyone around her, very sweet, just a disaster waiting to happen. Now that she is older and we have fought our way thru this and she lives in Northern CA and I in Southern CA, I am doing much better.
Do not let anyone take you apart for this, there are times when it just is not a good match. Knowing this and taking the responsible way out, is sometimes best for the dog and the owner. The breeders that will witch about a forever home, trade them if they do not fit their program, sell them, retire them and sell them off, they even at times make sure it is a good home they are going to.They are still "rehoming":
I think when they talk about breeders and responsibilty, it is not that they have any responsibility to the owners of the dogs, but the dogs themselves.The breeder has chosen to have a litter, sell the pups, choose the buyers. In most cases they are most prepared to assist the dog in retraining, correcting bad behaviuor to try and insure a "forever" home the next time. 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

Simply, and kindly put them down.
Problem solved.

Your not going to change people with education.  
And your money could do more good elsewhere.

But it's your choice, just don't whine about it.



Moons.


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 31 December 2009 - 17:12

Put the people down or the dogs?





 


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