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by danbee on 17 January 2010 - 04:01

Thanks for the opinions on my possible longcoat pup.  I took some new pics today and I've included a couple of them here but in the interest of not overloading this page, I made another webpage w/a lot of pics of her. http://www.hokschhaus.com/koda.htm. 

Any thoughts are appreciated - she's the only pup still for sale in the litter (was sold but buyer decided they wanted a male instead) but of course I need to figure out what she is before I sell her.

Thanks!!!!

 


RamhausK9

by RamhausK9 on 17 January 2010 - 04:01

My eyes may be bad, but I don't think I see any long hair between her toe nails and no long wisps in her ears. Those are (usually) your dead give aways. If sje does not have those, then I would say probably not a long coat. I have seen litters of pups with one out of the bunch that looks like this. However, they fail to have the longer hair between the paws/inside ears. They usually grow out of the long coat look by 14 or 15 weeks. JMHO

Mystere

by Mystere on 17 January 2010 - 05:01

She is adorable!! She does not look like a coat to me, either.

by vomHunterhaus on 17 January 2010 - 06:01

She is NOT a LC, she is a plush coat.
Plush coat is acceptabable in the show world , and so is she.
Very nice pup.

by crhuerta on 17 January 2010 - 06:01

I do not think Koda is a long stock coat......I cannot see hair on the inside of her ears at the base.
The hair "on" the ears can be a little concerning....but I have seen it in normal stock coats.
HOWEVER:.....do you know that "Kris" IS a long stock coat.......he is the one I would consider the "coated" puppy.
He will not have a tremendous "sheep dog" looking coat.......but, he is in my opinion....the coated puppy.
VERY CUTE PUPPIES!
Robin

by danbee on 17 January 2010 - 06:01

I wasn't sure about Kris but suspected that he may be. However he's been sold to a nice pet home who will be happy with him either way - limited registration & no interest in showing so I wasn't worried about him.

I was mainly wondering about Koda because she's not sold yet and has very nice drives so I'd like her to possibly go to a working/show home but of course need to make sure she's not a coat if I'm selling her with that possibility.  Just curious, what difference do you see between Kris & Koda?  They've looked almost identical to me since they were born although now Kris is a little "fuzzier".

At what age can you usually tell your longcoats apart?  Below are pics of 3 of the pups at 4 wks old (Christmas).  Kris is 1st, Koda 2nd and Kiri is 3rd.  Kiri has the shortest coat in the litter now but at that point they all looked pretty similar to me. 

  (Kris) (Koda)
(Kiri)

by Mutz on 17 January 2010 - 07:01

I'm pretty sure this puppy is stock long coated.

Reason? this puppy has longer hair on the ear than normal puppies and a little different skull shape.

Usually long coat puppy has a different head shape, the muzzle is more narrow and the eyes are a bit closer together.

I hope this helps you.


ve909

by ve909 on 17 January 2010 - 09:01

If the coat is significant longer than the other pups, than almost 100% sure it will be a LC.

By the photos, she looks like a LC to me.

An experienced and knowledgeable breeder can easily tell around 4 to 6 weeks.

LC's will pup out once and a while no matter what combination.

This is the way since the beginning of the breed.

Many have tried to breed the LC out and have failed.

I personally will buy her, they tend to be the best dog in the litter.

Shown below are 3 stages of "Apollo" LC black and red male.

Best of luck.










RamhausK9

by RamhausK9 on 17 January 2010 - 12:01

Ve909, the pup pic you posted shows hair between his toe nails. You can see it hanging down on the left front paw that is dangling in the air. The pup the poster showed does not have this.


Miro

by Miro on 17 January 2010 - 13:01

Longcoat 100%





 


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