Don't you have to train a dog to get an IPO1 title??? - Page 2

BYW Jenni,

LOVE YOUR PUPPY AD!!!!!!
Best wishes.

Thanks. LOL. I just felt like doing something a little different.

The easiest way to figure a decent price on a titled dog is to figure out the "costs" behind the dog.
I can only speak of prices that I have been involved in personally........AND regarding dogs that have been sent to Germany for titles or showing...
IF YOU ARE BUYING A PUPPY TO START WITH.........possible future costs would/could be as follows....
Original puppy purchase price of 500-800 euro.......
Alot of trainers charge an average of anywhere from 1800-2500 euros for ScH1 or IPO1.
700-1000 euro for Korung,  plus expences for travel, handling, shows...etc...
So......if you add the possible "expected" normal costs.......you can imagine what the "fair" price of the dog can be??
The older the dog.....general rule....price is a little lower...
Again......I am only using a "general" idea......nothing is written in stone.
jmo,
Robin

 Hi Jenni,

Here is a direct quote from the ad for the dog:

"Binne is a wonderful family dog."

Ok, where I come from, family dog is one that has a vague idea that one doesn't play leapfrog all over the furniture, nor snatch food/toys from little kids.  

The advertisers state the following: "Binne is NOT trained in obedience, but is titled IPO1.".  Now, since IPO includes a requirement the dog pass an obedience routine, I still wonder if these people either do not know what language in which the dog was trained, or something else.  The obedience IPO requires is certainly more complicated than that required, for example, to get an AKC Rally novice title or Canine Good Citizen certificate.

Regards,

Micky

Micky, you are talking about an AMERICAN family dog. You're equating "family dog" with "house dog." While the dog might be in this country, keep in mind that she may have been brought over as an adult, or kept as a kennel dog. Saying a dog is a wonderful family dog only means temperament, IMO, not actual training. Any number of "wonderful family dogs" in Germany will never have stepped foot in a house.

OR...you could contact the seller and ask yourself what it means before ridiculing them on public message board. I suspect Jenni is right.

 "While the dog might be in this country, keep in mind that she may have been brought over as an adult, or kept as a kennel dog. Saying a dog is a wonderful family dog only means temperament, IMO, not actual training."

Thanks Jenni.  BTW, good luck with your nice litter.  Like others have said, your ad is hilarious and unforgettable 

Thanks, Micky. Should be some interesting pups. I'm not sure everyone saw my humor (as usual), but it did get a lot of views. LOL.

On topic....Capri is an excellent family dog (as long as the family doesn't invite stupid people over). She is great with kids, has the intuition to be careful with tiny babies, and is balanced enough to calm down in the house enough to be an enjoyable companion. However, she was NOT housebroken when I got her, had no issue jumping on the kitchen table, scratches and jumps up at doors and windows, and still occasionally walks around on her hind legs w/her front paws on the counter to irritate the cats. Not to mention the occasion where she turns into a whirling dervish in the living room and knocks jar candles straight up about 5 feet in the air, dumping wax all over herself and the carpeting. NOT most people's idea of a stellar "house dog," but for a dog who sleeps in a kennel and is only in the house sometimes...she's a great "family dog." 

It has not been easy to convert her to a "house dog."  Old habits die hard. She means well and she tries hard, but she just doesn't have the "low setting"  that dogs who have been raised in the house seem to pick up naturally from puppyhood.

This new one I got, who is the same age, came from a home. She's the opposite; she has had no formal training at all, but she is an angel in the house. Walks slowly, knows where her tail is, wouldn't dream of putting paws on counters and tables, etc. Saves the whirling dervish routine for OUTSIDE.

"Capri is an excellent family dog (as long as the family doesn't invite stupid people over)."

ROTFL.  This is great; I love it!  Yes, that's definitely the perfect family dog.