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Brittany, Please read the following(#15 on the Terms of Service): "Since this is interactive, and everyone who participates in pedigreedatabase.com is "in it together", please treat others the way you wish to be treated. One way to guard against misunderstandings is to read over your response before you post it. Flaming: flaming or personal attacks are not allowed or tolerated. Should anyone use inappropriate language, start a personal attack, or engage in hate speech, they will be barred from all further discussions." Seems to me that the harassment of Saoa about personal issues that are not even related to anything about the post is starting a personal attack. I understand that you may not agree with what she's done, but as the moderator, she clearly has the authority that Oli has granted her and which he feels is appropriate to do so. My posts have also been removed--it happens, and life goes on. Be happy Oli allows any posts. I am certain that if this type of behavior continues, and Oli gets complaints, he'll likely remove this post forum, as it has caused him nothing but trouble. This is to be used as an informational discussion forum, and not for personal vendettas, regardless of whether they are reasonable or not. Again, my opinion.

That is not an opinion, you have spoken the TRUTH, for God's sake. Don't beat around the bush, VomFelsenHof. If we could control these juvenile outbursts and attacks against others from this person, this board would instantly improve by leaps and bounds the moment she was banned(as she has appropriately been banned from other boards for her irrational behavior). This board is up and running, good information is being disseminated, people are trying to resolve problems(and doing so), people are engaging in constructive dialog, and then.......there is this PERSON floundering around like a beached whale, attacking this person and that person. It totally has to stop! Stephen

VomFelsenHof, no need to post in the rules.. I already know them (winks).. As of matter of fact when I read the rules... It doesn't say that posting up xrays isn't allowed. Saoa I think you owe a public apology to Jantie, honestly. You expect people to fallow the 4th rule but yet you do theses kind of things?! sorry sweetie... respect is a privilege, not a right in my book. You certainly not going to have my respect with the kind of crap you've sent me just recently.. I do have a special folder called "Spam" for theses kind of things. I have it set on auto delete.

Stephen, Please don't sit here and tell the whole world that I'm nothing but a tyrant on this site. I've spent many hours contributing to this site and adding up new pedigrees and posting in new pictures. (I will contuine doing it) As far as I can see it Stephen.. we will never agree to things... simply because you are a breeder and I am a buyer.. you will defend any breeders thats out there.. even to a well known breeder who refuses to replace a dysplasia dog to somebody who is heart broken and has that aweful choice of having to put down the dog early because of severe dysplasia hips. Exactly how hard is it to give back money or replace on a fault puppy that a breeder sold the buyer too? What exactly is a reputable breeder in your point of view Stephen? Please delete the thought of you being a breeder and your strong feelings... pretend that you're looking for a puppy and searching for that "reputable" breeder.

Howdy, Brittany, with all due respect, it sure looks sometimes like u are just waiting to rampage about something ! Well, if that is what u like to do...so be it...but i have something u should think about. Its not always " Buyers beware " it also goes the other way around: " Sellers beware ". I was not about to talk about this, since i believe its going to be a waste of my time, but, maybe, i can get u to see thing sometimes from a different angle. I found a buyer for a dog i have for sale, guy comes by, checks the dog, i do obidience with the dog, we do " Schutzdienst ", heck, i even buy him a cup of coffee. So far i have been driven around 180 Kilometers, spend my time. The guy likes the dog, we agree on the price, we make a WRITTEN contract. Everything fine & dandy. The day before the dog is supposed to be picked up the buyer calls & tells me he does not have the money to pay for the dog !! This happens qite often, even with puppys, peopel order a pup then they get a pup somewhere else a week earlier..... Most breeders i know wont even talk about it anymore. I considerd me as a lucky, because i was about to buy annother bitch, since i had an empty kennel after selling that dog, that i did not buy that bitch. After reading a several posts of yours, it seems to me that either u write faster then u think or u plain simply do not tolerate any opinions other than yours. Both do not serve for a good base to have a discussion. Ulli

Brittany I have never defended anyone else's reputation. I can only defend my own. I have a 12 month female in my kennel NOW that I took back 4 months ago, when it was discovered she had SEVERE dysplasia. That family has the FIRST pick from the next litter, AND my heartfelt apologies for sending them through the emotional rollercoaster of loosing an animal that they had bonded with. I bought a "small fortune"(over a 20 year period) in dogs BEFORE I ever decided to breed, so I am familiar with the other side of the fence. You ask the question, "What exactly is a reputable breeder in your point of view Stephen?" That question is open ended, retorical hogwash. One that can be discussed and debated for a year without taking a breath because the answer is so comprehensive. But in short, I consider myself reputable and there are COUNTLESS OTHERS that also are. Your bashing breeders, constantly, because you want to be a breeder and are not able to do so, does not bode well for your hunger and desire to become one(sort of like condemning a criminal, yet have a longing desire to commit crimes, like he does-not very healthy). What happens(God forbid) should you become a breeder? Will then breeders become nice people, just because you are one of them, OR will you instanly become an "evil villian", like the rest of us? Let me as YOU a question Brittany. How does it feel, knowing that of all the technical imperfections associated with this forum, that if you left, it's quality would improve beyond measure? Stephen

gsdfan: pls repost without the url. Hello all, Brittany incl. To Brittany: I have no problem with your opinion of me. Trust me, I can take the heat. I simply STICK to the TOS. You continue to state you do, yet proof the opposite. You continue to post url's in the message board and are disrespectful to many. I ask you again to review and remember the TOS (link below) and that some day you'll join us in fruitful communication. PS: The Xray was inflammatory towards the kennel who was mentioned all over the post(s). Due to the INTEND to slander. Which in turn in not allowed. Especially and additionally, since this kennel is unaware of these attacks and unable to defend themselves here on the board.

Saoa, just apply your rules equally to everyone including yourself. I don't see that happening.

Stephen, you quoted "Your bashing breeders, constantly, because you want to be a breeder and are not able to do so, does not bode well for your hunger and desire to become one(sort of like condemning a criminal, yet have a longing desire to commit crimes, like he does-not very healthy). What happens(God forbid) should you become a breeder?" Just to clear the thought... I do not like bashing any breeders... even to the ones who are well known in Germany. I really don't consider this to be bashing... only wanting honest answers and explanations. I do NOT have the "strong hunger desire" to become a breeder anymore. Times has changed. I'm more interested in training. Dont get me wrong... I still want to breed... however my only focus is to train. In the future I think I would be a fine breeder... I would not only be honest but will NEVER let any of my clients down if something hereditary happens to their dogs. You also quoted "Let me as YOU a question Brittany. How does it feel, knowing that of all the technical imperfections associated with this forum, that if you left, it's quality would improve beyond measure?" I'm pretty sure that some of you guys would love to see me go... however that's not going to happen. Get use to seeing my name... If you don't like it... then feel free to leave this site and dont let the door hit you on your way out, simple as that.

Saoa, please allow me to correct your false statement. The breeder is very well aware of this board and the comments placed here. So are the other people involved in my case, such as the owners of Indiana's brother Ice and the man in Spain who bought their father. (Doing my best here, NOT to reveal their names, you would again delete my post.) His lawyer is very much present and follows my every move on this board. Do I need to shut up because of him? I have never hidden myself, I correspond with a great deal of people on this board about the matter, when you delete my comments, I send them privately to the e-mail-addresses from the different profiles. The x-rays which I posted belong to ME, I have paid for them. The dog is MY dog and I am allowed to speak freely about him and his shortcomings. I do not "slander", I speak the truth and nothing but the truth. Now why would my X-ray be "inflammatory towards the kennel"? Any kennel here that never had a case of HD? Do you want all the people from all over the world to hide all of their x-rays? I am not offending people, when I do, I appologise. But controversial discussions must be admissible in a free world. You make me think of China all the time. I am gratefull for different comments I received. They are helping me very much in dealing with this matter. Do you want this to be personal, do you want to deprive me of their expertise? Keep your fingers away from the delete-button, there is no reason to delete any of my comments. I have helped many people on this board with free information about their dogs, their ancestors and other stuff (which sometimes takes me hours to scrutinise). We are grown-ups here, do not treat us like children. Let me add this. You told me in private you did not moderate the board anymore. Was that a lie? Then why did you lie to me? Please advise.