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cherub

by cherub on 13 May 2006 - 17:05

I feel badly for your loss and I'm sure you are heartbroken. This being said, it is important to recognize steps re: your other animals still there. One of the best ways to have established yourself as the pack leader would be to walk that dog UPON arrival BEFORE entering the home for 2 to 3 miles. After several days of slow acclimation and establishing control w/the dog, then introduce with the cat in a crate for several hours over a period of several days. Finally, and very importantly,make sure YOU are calm or the dog will sense it and react. The dog did what many high prey animals can do. NEVER take anyone's guarantee as to how two animals will react...you muct be their leader and responsible to know the personalities of each animal first. Again, I am so sorry for your loss.

by D.H. on 13 May 2006 - 20:05

Excuse me, but am I the only person here who thinks some of these comments are wayyy off? This lady had asked the breeder a specific question about her current living arrangements and if everyone would be safe after that dogs arrival. And got a bogus answer that should have never been given like that and which led to the death of one of her beloved pets! The question in that post was not: was it normal for that dog to kill my cat? It wasn't even: could there have been a chance of this happening? The question was, well read it again if you must, because apparently most did not quite catch onto what was being said. What is the difference between someone getting NO promise for a breeder and then loosing a pet to HD, or this lady getting a very specific promise which resulted in her loosing her pet? In the first scenario the breeder gets a bad rap and everyone on this board is all over it, and in the last scenario the buyer has to read all this crap about what she did wrong, what she should have done better. Diana did nothing wrong other than put her trust in an answer that should have never been given that way. Obviously she did not anticipate the possibility and why should she after that answer. As some of the replies pointed out very clearly that a dog getting along with one cat does not mean it will get along with all cats. If she had to ask the breeder/seller that question, it was already a concern, but the seller should at least have alerted her to the possiblity, made sure pets are properly introduced and supervised. At least said that it cannot be predicted how these pets will interact, and most certainly NOT put her mind into "safe mode" where she did not anticipate any potential problems. If a breeder gives the same answer when asked if the dog is good with children and we would now read that did not hold up, what then? Regardless, the result is that it left a family pet dead. No difference if that is a GSD, no difference what the money. The original poster is upset and upset because she obviously loved that cat. Now she is without cat, and it looks like without dog, and without $3000US and hardly anyone here seems to see anything wrong with that? And if that post had started with: "The dog I bought from Germany..." y'all would have had a field day! Bygolly, what a bunch of hypocrites...

by SGBH on 14 May 2006 - 03:05

I think there were plenty facts left out of the first post. The emotion of Diana7788's loss was evident, but the actual "factual" scenario surrounding that post is vague, at best. I understand the loss of the cat. The loss of the dog is an assumption(on my part), that fact was not CLEARLY specified and the $3000 that the owner(was that the breeder/broker or cat in the hat?) kept is clear as "mud" to me. Stephen

silat

by silat on 14 May 2006 - 06:05

Having done business with Wayne Curry and knowing the starter of this thread you have not understood the true issue here. This person bought her first ever GSD. She had no concept of prey drives or the actual amount of energy it takes to keep a hi drive dog.She told Wayne all of this he then proceeded to charge enough buy a car and made promises and statements that were not true. Wayne doesnt even have cats. How would he know if the dog was stable with other animals? At the very lease he acted like a used car salesman. Now in saying that it is true that she should have done more homework but she trusted Wayne and this is her fault. But I dont deal with people this way. I dont take advantage to make a sale.

silat

by silat on 14 May 2006 - 07:05

And you can do the math on this ..Wayne charged her a $3000 stocking fee.. That is about 30% of the full price. LOL

silat

by silat on 14 May 2006 - 09:05

Corrected math.. 3000 is 25% of her total fee..

GSDfan

by GSDfan on 14 May 2006 - 10:05

Wow that makes it much clearer, thanks silat. Wayne was wrong, he shouldn't have treated a new GSD owner that way, he was responsible for giving her the proper information and instructions.

by SGBH on 14 May 2006 - 11:05

Clear as "mud" is becoming as clear as filtered water now.

by Blitzen on 14 May 2006 - 13:05

Thanks, DH and Silat, I was having similar thoughts, but few want to hear much from a person who is not a GSD breeder. Nice spin everyone, but it's not the buyer's fault. We all know breeders who will tell a buyer what he/she wants to hear in order to make a sale. Do you think she'd have purchased this dog had he said - "I don't know" or "Yes, he will chase cats and might kill them" or "I wouldn't trust him around cats". No sale, no money in pocket. 3K restocking fee is a pretty good profit for a dog that will be resold to someone else, don't ya think? This kennel advertises in "The Review". Why wouldn't a novice think that would be a good place to buy a dog? Think about it, if you were a first time buyer, how would you try to find a dog? As far as I know there is no national club to which you all belong, so no way to have any type of referral system or even a check list of how to buy your first dog. Why don't some of you put a few bucks together and generate a web site where prospective buyers can go to understand what they need to look for when buying a dog based on the type of dog they are looking for?

Dog1

by Dog1 on 14 May 2006 - 15:05

Blitzen, That's a good concept, the German Shepherd world is very confusing to newcomers with all the titles, ratings, hip stamps, etc. How does it all fit together? No one has written a step by step approach. Not sure one can be written that applies universally. One website with that goal would be quickly consumed by advertisements and you're back at square 1. I thought the Real GSD site did a pretty good job of outlining some of the steps and offered excellent information for beginners to start. I guess part of the problem is you just can't fix all the dumba$$es that just buy stuff they know nothing about. Some people just don't take the time to learn the value of what they buy. I just wish when they did they wouldn't clog up this site with their dumba$$ problems. There should be a rule to post. Before you post your dumba$$ post about how you got screwed by someone. You have to present all the facts. Post your knowledge, the research you did prior to the purchase, the contract you signed, the details of the vet check you did upon arrival. Include the request you made of the seller to correct whatever problem you feel exists. Please include their response. Also include your real name so the world knows who the other party is beside the so called bad breeder. This way something can really be learned about the process and the world will know who the real dumba$$es are.





 


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