Kraftwerk K9 kennel - Page 5

Dog 1, some should be glad for the dumba$$es of this world. If not for them how would some breeders sell their dogs for such outrageous prices?

you can't give a dog and cat a "test run". it could end up fatally. dogs aren't cars. the only facts i have to consider are those the breeder tells me. the "test run" which proved disasterous in my home made me decide to return the dog. if a car salesman lets u take a car for a test drive and the brakes are cut and u crash-whose fault is it? certainly not the salesman, he;s not responsible for what he is selling; it's the unsuspecting, trusting consumer' fault, of course!!!

You make your point, Diana7788. Your analogy hits home with one exception. The car salesman does not get to keep $3000 of your money after the crash(their insurance company covers the cost of the wreck). *************************************** You also wrote: DH, the main reason I think that it's best for the average person to not buy an import is simply because the Germans offer no guarantees and most say that one can never buy the best dog from Germany. ************** Don't let your bad experience jade your objectivity. Nothing could be more false than that post. Stephen

I forgot to add, we are ALL "average" on this planet. How you handle your "average" in your day to day endeavours is up to you. Those that think they are above "average" are legends in their own minds.

SGBH, I, not Dianna, wrote the post regarding no guarantees and that the Germans do not sell their best dogs. Now are you telling me that is inaccurate information after I have read that time after time after time on this list and others? If I have misunderstood, then I will be happy to withdraw my statements but first answer me this: When importing a puppy/dog from Germany, does the seller guarantee that dog in writing? Can one buy the pick(s) of a litter from Germany? Sorry, but I will not apologize for being of the opinion that I will support breeders in the US before I will import a dog from any other country. IMO it's the right thing to do. All others are free to do as they please.

Sorry Dianna. So very sorry, my mistake. Forgive me please. :)

20 lashes for SGBH LOLOL.

I did not ask or expect you to apologize Blitzen. If I had not made the mistake of thinking that was Dianna's post....well, I would not have even responded(reason being, so much seems seems to agitate you and I don't want to add to that). I am aware of the no guarentee policy in Germany. I have had first hand experience with it over and over, since 1982. It is not a secret, I am not going to defend, debase or debate that fact of life. That's how life is, in that part of the world. What I was addressing, was the entire "context" of the post, about average people not importing. What is average? What's the discriminator there? And the comment about no one being able to buy the best dog from Germany. The whole post in it's context was what I was addressing, not denouncing a fact(no guarentee given in Germany). Just wanted to clear that up Blitzen, I sincerely, don't want to ruffle your feathers.

Let me offer a second take on this. As many of you know, I also do GSD rescue. I have placed more than 400 GSDs in the last 7 years and about 1/3rd of those dogs were actually in my home/kennel until I was able to find them a place. I am always asked if a given dog is "safe" with cats, other dogs, people etc. While I evaluate each animal I adopt out or sell very carefully, I know, for a fact, that dogs do change once they get into a situation which might differ from the situation I see them in. I am a fanatic about placing rescue GSDs and I am a fanatic about selling any rare pup from a rare litter I might breed. I will not place or sell to someone who is inexperienced unless I am sure I can continue to provide help and advice and the new owner is absolutely committed to getting and accepting that help. No one knows what was said by Kraftwerk. I certainly do not. However, I can tell you this, that I would NEVER, EVER tell someone to trust a dog they did not know with another animal or cat or for that matter, with any person or child. There must be some common sense used here by the purchaser as well as the seller. The sad result in this situatino is the loss of a beloved cat. I can not tell you how many times in my prior years that I have given stern advice about cats, not allowing a young pup to play with a much older dog who has lived alone in a household, to keeping a dog on leash in public (and while hiking), to carefully supervise the dog or pup around children etc., only to have people apparently disregard what I said and have consequences. So again, though I do not know what was and was not said, the fact that this happened does, in my opinion, show a lack of experience with GSDs and other dogs who are likely to have prey drive. Though I feel for the purchaser on her loss of her cat, I too am of the opinion that Kraftwerk cannot be blamed. If indeed he said the dog was foolproof and safe with a cat (and I doubt he would do that, even for a big buck sale), the owner sadly still must bear the responsibility and the sad consequences. This is one example of why I am EXTREMELY careful about where and to whom I adopt or sell dogs. People get into trouble when they do not know the breed and do not have enough experience. Without a "mentoring" situation where someone is willing to abide by my suggestions, I always am very nervous about adopting or selling. I hope Kraftwerk will simply take the dog back, give the woman her money back and let her think about what breed of dog belongs in her household based, in part, on her experience or lack thereof.

to all who are interested" Kraftwerk told me "not to interfere" with the dog and cat confrontations, and "don't get involved" if they go at it. I didn't. by the time i decided to "get involved" and try to break it up, it was too late, Chester was too badly injured. I listened to the breeder emphasizing "DON'T GET INVOLVED, DON'T INTERFERE'--he was the expert, I listened to the experti was paying for advice. It's very comforting to know that none of you out there ever make mistakes of judgment. I can learn a lot from you!