Oli and Mods a TOS and other suggestion - Page 2

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No one should ever be able to tamper with another persons Pedigrees of there dogs. Only the owner should have the ability to change any data of his or her dogs Pedigree. anything else put on by another person is false, it matters not if the information is right or wrong and it should not be allowed by the site owner
i really do not know where some of you  are coming from, Get your priorities right
Steve1

Modulus Rex
Here is part of your post
Giving owners the abitlity to lock pedigrees from outside alteration seems like a good idea that i will forward to site administration. I amnot so sure about locking all pedigrees so that only the ORIGINAL person who submitted it can change it, as there are plenty of old pedigrees here that are flat out incorrect, and it would make sense for membership to be able to correct them

Modulus Rex
No, i am not incorrect, If i or anyone else puts a Pedigree of there dog on this forum who are you or anyone else to say that  it is incorrect, without doubt it would have orginally been put on here  by the owner of that dog, dead or otherwise.
NO ONE should be able to tamper with another persons Pedigree of there Dog no matter if the original Owner and or Dog is dead that is out of order.
Steve1

     I also think that the pedigrees should be locked. If a dog changes hands or something needs to be added or changed, you should have to verify your right to make the change by proof positive of who you are and why you are changing,
    After last years fiasco's and free for all on the database, where numerous pedigrees were changed with malicious intent, I removed ALL my dogs pedigrees off here, And it's a shame, i'm proud of who all my dogs are.
     Also, I won't list the reg. numbers anywhere. i have had people go to great lenghths trying to obtain reg. numbers trying to register their dogs illegally through different registries.
     I feel if you are not the one putting the pedigree up, you should have to go through verified sources to change them.
     I'd love to list my dogs pedigrees back up here.

edited in-tess, I don't mean oli should have to verify the right to change anything, just verify WHO is making the change. I think if you had to verify who you were prior to making a change,those with malicious intent would be less likely to do so.

I didn't realize you could remove pedigrees.

As to verifying rights when dogs change hands, I don't know if Oli is up for that.  It might be helpful to understand his thoughts as to why things are the way they are:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/faq.html#3

While all valid reasons not to allow "tampering", what about the many pedigrees with vastly incomplete information. When I registered one of my dogs, there was NOTHING here registered for 1/2 of her pedigree. I would have been thankful if someone had come forward with the information that I needed instead of having to do months worth of research to fill in the blanks.

I have added and corrected within my own dogs pedigrees, but always truthful and verifiable facts. I have added my dogs siblings as well as OFA results. When I look for a dog I would like to see the most accurate information possible. That is what the DB is for. It is a research tool... how can we use that tool if half the information we are seeking is incomplete?

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Melissa

Melba, Then you should have got all the information from the person you purchased the Dog from that is the right way to go not just look up bits here and there, You will still not know if it is right, When you Buy a Puppy over here in Belgium the Full Pedigree is sent to you by the govening body they check it through It does not come with the Puppy i have to wait around two to three months to get a Pedigree proper offical when i buy a Pup over here. At least that is what has happened on 5 occasions for me
Steve1
However i just went to delete one of my pedigrees from this data base and it says in part
'Note that owning phisically a dog is not the same as owning the pedigree'
 
then it goes on etc

I wonder what does that statement mean
I own my Dog,  I own its pedigree, no question simply because my dogs parents and G,Parents details are below my dog
However
I do not own the Parents or G.Parents pedigrees of my dog, but i do own my own dogs pedigree and my name is on there offically to prove it, so i am not sure what this statement implies. It could mean that it is a free for all to chop and change at will. However all three of my dogs pedigrees will be deleted from this PDB. right or wrong they are going off
Steve1

Steve1,
I went through AKC to get the information I added, so yes it is true and correct. Over here your can order your 3 gen pedigree when you register your dog. The information I added went 10-12 generations back. As long as the information is true and correct, why wouldn't you be allowed to add it? It is the same information that AKC has on record.

Melissa

Melba is correct. Years ago, I had to add my dog's mother, which meant I had to put in her parents,etc. And as to knowing everyone's aliases, what good is that going to do? Like the person who brought it up, you can just say it was my daughter's account.

Then it would have been more appropiate to say in the first place that you got the info from the govening body of your country. the way you wrote it was from reliable sources, had you said the AKC then it would be differnt however you should in most instances get  the info you want by clicking on the last generation of the pedigree you should then bring up the earlier generations. if the pedigree is up todate
Steve1


However  just for interest i have just gone back to 30 generations on the Paternal line of Izzy
 It dates back to 1903 some 107 years of pedigrees for her fathers side and it goes beyond that but no details the mothers side i did not look