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Exactly, steve1. And you would not be able to do that if the rule here was that only the actual owner of the dogs in Izzy's "107 years of pedigrees" were the only ones allowed to post that pedigree information.

I am sorry for not clarifying my earlier post. Yes, the info came from AKC.

Tess, that is exactly what I was trying to say :)

Melissa

And what makes you think that 107 years of pedigrees were put on other than by the people who owned the Dogs. so you are guessing that every Tom Dick and Harry could have been adding to the generations of pedigrees over 107 years
So what you are saying is that anyone can tamper and change the pedigrees of your dogs and you are happy with that, If you are correct and everyone may have been adding to them through the generations we can never be sure that they are authentic to this day, the breeding of our dogs may not be as we think they are
However as i have bought the thing to the fore and highlighted my own, some wise Guys may try to mess with the pedigrees just to be funny but they will not need to bother,  the pedigrees of my dogs come off this data base today
Steve1

Steve1, just to play devils advocate, who is to say the actual owners of the dogs in your pedigree put that information here? I am not picking on you, nor do I necessarily disagree with what you wrote.

I would not mind one bit if someone filled in some blanks in any of my pedigrees, so long as the info was correct and factual. I don't know all of these dogs, but I am sure someone else may.

Once posted to the internet, the information  is no longer solely yours. Should people be honest and not falsify information? Of course! There are always a few bad apples that will screw around.

A better solution would be to somehow verify info before changes are made. I can't see that happening without charging a fee to use the site which would cover the cost of that service. Dunno.

Melissa

"And what makes you think that 107 years of pedigrees were put on other than by the people who owned the Dogs."

I'll just let y'all think about that one for awhile.

"So what you are saying is that anyone can tamper and change the pedigrees of your dogs and you are happy with that"

steve1, you are the master of the non sequitur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_%28logic%29

steve1, just click on any of the dogs in your pedigrees and then click on history of changes and you'll see just how many people have been involved in the pedigree info, you might be shocked.

""And what makes you think that 107 years of pedigrees were put on other than by the people who owned the Dogs."

Modulus Rex moderator comment.:  Steve1, I kind of doubt Max von Stephanitz came back from the dead to register Horand von Grafrath on here.  Which gets back to my original point.

No i do not expect he would come back the Dog was however born in the late 1800's i would guess and perhaps it is but a caption put on by the owner of the Dog
As for me No, i think logically, about subjects and things,
However you Guys seem to be okay with what may or can go on regards changing of  your dogs pedigrees regards deleting or adding to them so i guess that is okay, but i do not think anyone should change or add to a Dogs pedigree unless they get permission from the owner of the Dog, Call me old fashioned but thats life

Michael49
I am sorry but i do not see the part you talk about History of Changes i looked on Izzy's Pedigree but did not see it
Steve1

Well, I have a novel idea!  Why not have a committee selected to go over the oldest pedigrees and when agreed that they are correct, LOCK them!  Continue, with as many peds that can be agreed upon easily and lock each as you go.  Then continue on with all deceased dogs, following the lineage on the sire side.  Then go to the dam's side and do the same and so on.  Leave the blanks blank, unless new information comes to light and can be verified.  I know it would be a daunting task, but it only makes sense that old pedigrees (especially those dating to the conception of the breed) should NOT be edited.   We could seclect a different committee each month and allow them to go through the lines, locking as many as possible.  When you get to current generations,  it would be more important to veryify the information, so those who are breeding those lines should be the only ones elected to the committee.  May take years, but it's a start.

Then, all peds would be verified as best as is humanly possible and it will be much easier to add new.  If an error is found and verified by the committee, only then can it be changed.  Then, the feature of choosing parentage would be simple and additions much faster and easier to make.

New peds would be the  responsibility of the current owner to verify their own, then locked accordingly.  Eventually, the only form that could be edited would be the "new ped" form.

Start a new section for pedigree research and candidates could post their "resumes" so the member body can vote.

"Well, I have a novel idea! Why not have a committee selected to go over the oldest pedigrees and when agreed that they are correct, LOCK them!"

Modulus Rex moderator comment: There are something like a half-million GSD pedigrees here.  Even if you could come up with a committee to review them all, there's no way site administration could spend the time to approve them.