Haus Gero Kennel - Page 2

It is no surprise that VA1 Dingo was a very good mover. He was line bred (2-3) on Canto Wienerau, who in my opinion was one of the biggest degenerates in the breed ever, who just happened to be a super mover and produced it. Dingo's front was slightly pushed forward like Canto's father, and like Canto, which aided his reach and which was actually incorrect. Some knowledgeable W. German breeders quietly told others that Canto was a spook and a free bleeder. But his breeder used him extensively because he produced the American GSD type of longer dogs with super sidegait. Excessive length stabilizes the front and the rear actions and helps the dog balance the actions between both. But this is not correct. A dog of correct and short length of loin and back will pace when walking and trot at higher speed. VA1 Dingo was far superior to Canto but alas tended to pass on the unmentionable genetic flaws of Canto which probably have really have hurt the breed long term. It was alway an old breeders belief that lack of pigment was an indicator of genetic weakness and degeneracy. Canto by this definition was a force of degeneracy in the breed in my view.

where does that leave us Preston? Leaving aside the haemophillia, that critisism could be leveled at most dogs around that time they all had and still have a loading of Canto blood through the massive amount of use he recieved. Most top dogs today have Canto in thier pedigree's a number of times and I would argue that on the whole his infulence has been to change for the better. Yes Dingo was long in the loin and maybe that aided his movement, I saw him and frankly he wasn't that long, at the time he was a breath of fresh air, anatomicaly we have all moved on we require a different dog today, but arguably we don't see that beautiful movement as often. There are no arguments to be made about Dingo's working ability and the fact that it was passed on to his offspring, if you were lucky.

Hi Steve Thanks for the input, I tend to think of Dingo as the last of the 'old' style dogs, his effect on the breed was quite minimal but like Mona he left some great movers. My dog was poetry on the move, his hips were good and he had a Lasso val di sole giving him pigment and Quanto lines. Still think the working ability came via the B litter Lierberg, which you can find on most pedigree's via the line breeding to Wilma v Kisselschlucht. regards Carol W.

Hello Carol W. I had sent you my dogs photo. Did you get it? Your opinion? Thank you

Hello Chaka, Is kennel Haus Schrieber still activ. Are they using Dingo lines.Any Information. Radical, Can I see photo of your dog on this site.I am very very much interested.

Hi Sumo got your email, have also forwarded it to PJ, will reply this am to you by email. Sorry my dog is not on the site, he died before this site was put up, his breeding off the top of my head was Xaver aus dem Schwartzen Zwinger ex Judy v Haus Gero-who was imported to UK in whelp.

Hi Carol, I am waiting for your comments.

Hi all This is a rally good thread. I wish there were more like this and I wish I had the knowledge and background you guys have. Unfortunately I wasn't around to see these dogs in the late 70s and early 80s. I am a little confused though. I keep hearing today that if a dog is not long enough in the loins they will never be a good mover. Are you saying that this favouritism towards lengthy dogs is in fact incorrect? Was Dingo ahead of his time? I have seen photos of him and he doesn't look to be too long. By the way, I have Dingo about 6/7 generations in my dogs pedigree, hence my interest in this dog. Please keep threads like this one going!

Hi All Seen this thread for first time today and really enjoyed reading it. Brought back great memories of the full body goose pimples I experienced when first seeing the Dingo video at a GSD League Seminar back in the early to mid 80's. You have all covered many important points and with reference to the Canto line what must be remembered that today Heamophilia can only be carried/transmitted through direct female lines to Canto and not male line descendants. Radical (hi Carol !), You may or may not be aware that Wilma Kisselschucht mated to Lasso di val Sole produced Xandra vom Arminius (litter sister of Xaver sire of Quando) who was dam of Condor Arminius who in turn was Grandsire of Nacale. The first year Quando Arminius made VA1 Sieger in 1986, Nacale had already become a Champion at the British Two Day National in June of that year. So the 'X' litter Arminius was producing on both sides of the Channel through brother and sister of the Lasso x Wilma mating. Lasso di val Sole was in my opinion the forerunner of the type we have today. Not without his faults (what dog ever is) but he also possessed the elegant stretch proportions. Regards Sue

Hi Again For those interested Sieger Show '96 JKLH SG169 was Fee von Pallas Athena who is a grand-daughter of Dingo through his son Natan vom Bergischen Tal highest placed Dingo son at '85 Sieger in Mannheim. In '86 Hamburg Dingo son Hardy vom Fourniermuhlenbach made VA6 and to my knowledge his top son was V1 Barry vom Fichtenschlag who (although sire typical and a better specimen) I dont think he ever produced on. Regards Sue