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by Sumo on 20 July 2006 - 02:07

Hello Everyone , Thank all of you for your valuable contribution to this thread. I was the one who started this thread. I onle heard that Dingo was the best mover of all time. So to gain more knowledge I started this thread. So everyone on this thread seem to agree that Dingo was a super mover of all time & also good workability. These are the prime aim of GSD breeding. So we can say that Dingo was close to Ideal GSD of Capt. Stephanitz dreams. Where does this leave us in comaprison to modern day GSD. I mean if you see the anatomy of Dingo, there is no right angled stifle bend which is most sought after today, also that sloping back (which sometimes go to extreme in altenberger land and american lines), slighlty steep upper arm, not particularly huge in head. Are these cosmetic changes? From modern day GSD I liked the movement and anatomy of Zamp Thermodoos. I have seen Zamp on cassettes but I have not seen Dingo in person or cassette. Please anyone of you who have seen both compare for us new people both the dogs. Their pluses and minuses. One more thing which I would like to have insight is that somebody has written that Dingo was not a good producer and he has some problems in that area. How true is this? That is one reason why Dingo line was lost. Or is it because the Judges after 1983 preferred different type and anatomy. Does anyone know of kennel who still uses Dingo lines. 1998 VA7 Jello Michelstädter Rathaus was linebred 5-5 on Dingo. How was that dog? Did he have any of Dingo's virtues. I will be very interested in having dog of that line. Lastly is todays GSD in respect to anatomy a Cosmetic change by people who were judges at that particular time.

by Sumo on 20 July 2006 - 08:07

I am dying to see Dingo's movie. Please if somebody tell me where I can get it? I really want to know why his called poetry in motion. I have never heard this compliment for any other dog.

by Sumo on 20 July 2006 - 08:07

Is it possible to find Dingo's lines now or it is a waste of time? Dingo mostly is in now 6 or 7 generation back. I think it is the end of road for Dingo's fans who are looking for Dingo's lines to breed on. Anybody have contact of Dingo's owner or knows his where abouts.

Sue B

by Sue B on 20 July 2006 - 13:07

Hi Sumo Of course it is possible to find Dingo's lines now but what you must remember it is almost 30yrs since his birth and possibly 20yrs since his direct use at stud, so like everything else his lines can only be found generations back in the pedigree's of dogs today. Line breeding is how you promote the influence of a dog. So if you are really keen on bringing Dingo's influence to the fore today as much as is humanly possible, you need to look to acquire a Jello grand-daughter or great grand-daughter then mate her to a Dingo descendant, perhaps even a Grandson of Jello himself. You will then have a splattering of Dingo gene's throughout the 6th generation which in principle would bring his influence much further to the forefront. All the best with your decision. Regards Sue

Sue B

by Sue B on 20 July 2006 - 13:07

Hi Again Sumo, As for Zamp Thermodos, IMO you couldn't have mentioned a better dog, Zamp being my all time favourite of today. Better constructed, stronger pigmentation and altogether more ascetically pleasing than Dingo. But then Beauty always has and always will be in the eye of the beholder and over the years our eye's have seen many changes in type, some an improvement and others not. Dingo was a dog to admire in his time, as was Quanto and Mutz before him and who were the forerunners of the type we have today, they are still admired for the type they were at the time and the type, improvements they passed on, but unsure that their clones would do well against modern day descendants. Regards Sue

Terry1

by Terry1 on 20 July 2006 - 16:07

Hi Sumo! I don¿t know there Rolf Jansen is right now. The tape might be still avaible at Reivision. They produced it. If you need their adress let me know. Very best regards! Terry Frank Terhorst Grenzweg 100 46459 Rees Germany phone:011 49 2851 97542 fax:011 49 2851 97543 mobil:011 172 9447422 NEW!!! e-mail: TerhorstFrank@aol.com

by taz on 20 July 2006 - 18:07

Zamp Thermodos beautiful male looks to be producing good progeny, but for me character could be stronger there is definitely a weakness in that line.

Sue B

by Sue B on 20 July 2006 - 23:07

Hi Taz, If so, where do you suspect the character weakness comes from? It may interest Sumo to know the Dingo line even runs through Zamp himself through his dam Ute, a bit long winded but here goes;- Ute is a daughter of Esko Danischen Hof, through his mother line Esko is a grandson of Karly Arminius, Karly's grand-dam is Gina Finkenschlag who is a grand-daughter of Dingo through his son Dando Nordrheinland. So as you can see, Dingo is still running through the pedigree's of today, though mainly carried on through the female lines. Regards Sue

Videx

by Videx on 20 July 2006 - 23:07

A DVD which includes the movement of Dingo, showing his skeleton etc during his movement is available from the SV SHOP directly - is around 18 euros, you can phone them and pay by credit card, and it will be posted to you.

by Sumo on 21 July 2006 - 01:07

Hello everyone, Thanks very much for your knowledgable inputs. Thank you Sue B for explaining on how Dingo can still be linebred on, and also pointing out how Dingo is dtill present in Zamp line. That is interesting piece of information. Thank you Videx for helping with Dingo's DVD. Please forward me the number of SV shop I could not find it on site. Terry1 do you have contact of Rolf Jansen? Which changes in modern GSD you think are cosmetic? Which were not needed. Like the over angulated sloping back, size, big heads,etc. How was Jello Mischelstadter Rathaus because he was the only modern GSD linebred on Dingo. Last but not least why is Dingo line lost? if he was so good. We still see Uran and Quando of his times present in pedigrees sometimes even 4th generation.Was it choice of the office beares of SV that time? Was Dingo Haus Gero dog that Cap.Stefanitz thought of? Because certainly todays dog is not matching his dreams as they are very big. Thank you again all of you.





 


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