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by beetree on 29 January 2012 - 02:01

Thanks Slamdunc,

You know what a ditz I can be! That probably explains the funny looks my dog was giving me, like he didn't know why I wanted to wake him up from his nap, inside that cool-looking teepee! 


mfh27

by mfh27 on 29 January 2012 - 21:01

I was wondering why none of the sport naysayers haven't posted...and then I realized this section of the forum is called "Sport/Working"

To go off topic , the first club I joined was Schutzhund only.  It was mostly a mens gossip club, but it was free training, so I cant complain too much.  The club members only trialed and titled at their own club's trial.

After I moved, I found a club that likes to do a variety of work in addition to Schutzhund.  Its a lot more fun for the dogs and the handler, and really tests the dogs nerve and ability to handle pressure and stress.

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 29 January 2012 - 23:01

This may come as a shock to some of you, but after winning the virtual world championship, this weekend, Im regrettably stepping down as a club member. I have accomplished my goals and it is time for me to invest that time elsewhere. This has been on my mind for quite some time, and now that I'm on top, it just feels right. I want to thank a few people. My mom, for being a true dog lover and buying me a computer. My dad. My dad. What else can I say? Without his love for my mom, I may have ended up starching a tube sock. And to all the little people. Too many to name, and besides, I've helped them more than they have helped me. In closing, I'd lyike to thank myself. For being the best and never looking back. For always putting myself ahead of everything else. My confidence, intelligence and devilish good looks. If I could give all of you just one tiny piece of me, this world would be a better place. Thanks again, I'll miss you, and I love you all. (Exit music)

by workingdogz on 30 January 2012 - 01:01

Chaz,
I don't think anyone will ever be able to come
close to the performance you three turned out
on the field.

I've never seen anyone handle 2 SchH3's at the same time

I bow to you in respect.
You may clean your shoes on my back sir.


by brynjulf on 30 January 2012 - 01:01

OH OH OH  can I get my Virtual Master Trainers Award?????  Poop, I just saw that I had to breed a male to another male to compete in virtual Schutzhund.  I'm out, virtually no males in for training right now.  :(  Can we see video of your bark and hold Beetree? 

by beetree on 30 January 2012 - 14:01

Here ya go, brynjulf,




by beetree on 30 January 2012 - 19:01

Of course if you get enough points, you can move on up to the next level:




myret

by myret on 30 January 2012 - 22:01

Well I would certainly give you my opinion I dont know about the States and your training facilitys but here In Denmark schh or IPO is the sport most breeders use when breeding Both female and males. Thère are a another programme that Will dó when breeding and that is PH that is a cimilar to a police dog training and the dogs has to perform and pass a competition for further breeding. Overall the gsd In Denmark and World wide has not Got the same drives or hardness that many of the older Lines did Breeders have been choosing otherwise since the 90's The dogs today are more soft, handler soft, cant handle a hard correction without loosing drive. Lower prey and défense . I have spoken to several competitors In schh In the Danish Championship and they to tell mé that the gsd has changed much dó to they Will have to have more dogs that are pleasers because of the hard rules In schh are always changed and the really ekstreme dogs we saw more In 90 and 80's is not what you breed today because these dogs wont get the points needed So what the reason for the change In the gsd schh or breeding Well the breeders you deside I myself dont train my dogs In schh and I have nevet told its an easy sport ,but it is a sport that Will sort the good handlers from the leds good ones more so than it tests the dogs

myret

by myret on 30 January 2012 - 22:01

I dont Think the problem is the sport schh but main problem is that breeders have changed the breed because of the sport and because the Traits the sport requires to be in the top is In the demand for

by workingdogz on 31 January 2012 - 12:01

myret;
It always goes back to the breeders, they either follow
the "trends", or they keep on the same path.

Not everyone involved in schutzhund (or any other K9 sport)
wants to go to the Nationals, some just enjoy the time spent with
their dogs, dog related friends etc.

Getting out to the clubs seeing different dogs,
you will see the ones who are still of the "old type"
in the sense they bring true fight etc to their work,
and you will see the "sport/competition" type.
They are like night and day.

So, it's up to the buyer to see what the goals of the breeder is,
and make their decisions from there with purchasing.

Generally speaking, the smaller "hobby" breeder not
using the flavor of the month dogs will be taking a
different path than those that line up to breed to
the latest National winner.

There are plenty of people still out there putting miles
on their vehicles, themselves and their dogs doing
"schutzhund" with the original purpose in mind,
not all are breeders, in fact, most aren't, they just
like a really good dog.

It's the "internet experts" and "super breeders" that don't
do shit with their dogs that are having more of an impact.
They suck in the novices with their tales of grandeur, but
never leave the safety of their back yard with their
"wonder dogs". These are the same types of "breeders"
who will profess how schutzhund sucks etc.
The ones  who have never done it, but these same ones
will tout the titles of the grandsire/grand-dam etc?

I actually kind of pity them, they will never know the
feeling of success when they work with their dog
as a team to achieve a goal. A goal that just happens to
be an internationally recognized standard test.
They will also never know through the training
what their dog naturally excels at, and what troubles the dog.






 


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