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Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 January 2012 - 04:01

This review says there are real wolves shown in the film: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1601913/reviews?start=20   Most of the wolf action is CGI, but I think I saw part of one of the trailers that shows a shot of what are obviously real, live wolves.

Some of the facts may be difficult to prove, but the fact is 4 wolves were purchase for the making of this film. Whether they were alive or dead when purchased is a matter of debate. Leg hold traps do NOT kill their victims, so it would have been possible to tranquilize the wolves, and transport them to a fenced enclosure for later use in the film. And the wolves WERE eaten, so the actors could get 'into character'.  That is enough to make me boycott the film. Never mind the ridiculous footage of the wolves stalking and killing the people in the film...

by mtndawg on 28 January 2012 - 04:01

Here's an article that says they bought the 4 carcasses from a trapper.  Doesn't say if they were trapped specifically for the movie however.  2 were eaten by the cast.  Talk about getting into character!

http://www.nerdles.com/2012/01/27/the-grey-review-real-props-anger-wildlife-advocates/



Dawulf

by Dawulf on 28 January 2012 - 07:01

Have to say I always root for the wolves in movies like this... that fact alone gets me to not watch them. Though I do like that scene in the preview where all you see is eyes - kinda cool.

However, this is HORRIFYING! If they could CGI LIVE wolves, couldn't they CGI dead ones?! If the animals were trapped and dead already, movie or no, that is sad in itself. If they were trapped and killed FOR the movie, that is absolutely terrible. The fact that they were eaten just disgusts me, but at least their bodies were not... "wasted"... I guess...

cheeky

You'd think people would have more respect for these beautiful animals... people sicken me.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 28 January 2012 - 15:01

What is CGI?

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 January 2012 - 16:01

Computer generate images (I think that's what it stands for.) They take still shots of things, and use a computer to manipulate the images and bring them to life. It is especially good for showing scenes where animals and people might get badly hurt, if they tried to stage the scene using living actors or animals. A good example would be a horse falling. They used to trip the horse using a device called a running W. Then, due to the outcry from animal rights people over horses being hurt, and even dying, they trained the horses to fall, by turning the neck to one side, and having them collapse onto a specially prepared, cushioned piece of ground.

Now, most falls are done using CGI. I first saw it being used in the Lord of The Rings movies and, if not done well, it can look pretty fake. However, since the film showed horses being thrown in the air by huge elephant-like beasts, I was very glad the images WEREN'T real!

The character Gollum was done by filming actor Andy Sekris wearing a special suit that had markers on it, then overlaying a computer generated Gollum ontop of Andy. The suit was designed so that only the markers would show up when Andy was filmed against a blue screen background. Andy provided the voice for Gollum, too as well as playing Smeagol (Gollum) before he finds the ring, and is changed by its power.

One of the reviews I read on The Grey said much of the background scenery was done using CGI, and done very poorly, too, which is a shame, because Alaska is a very beautiful place!

I guess the actors just couldn't take the cold, so they had to film indoors, and add the scenery using blue screen technology! 

WIMPS!    (Should have hired some Canadians! LOL!)

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 28 January 2012 - 18:01

People trap. Fact. I know several trappers. It is what it is. I would rather allow the trappers to do their thing than suffer the consequences of letting Peta freaks have their way. I even know people who raise wolves. Look in an exotic animal trading magazine...it's rather disturbing. The movie sounds stupid and ridiculous. But I think it's getting way too much attention because people are freaking out that wolves were eaten. People eat all kinds of animals. What's the difference? By making a big deal about this movie, you're just giving it MORE publicity, essentially backfiring your own plan. 

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 January 2012 - 18:01

Jenni, would you take the same stand if the movie was portraying our dogs as ravenous man-eaters?

I somehow don't think so...

If you visit the Wolf Watcher site, they are asking their supporters to boycott the movie, and pass out pamphlets telling the truth about wolf behavior.Their goal is to educate the public, and they tried to do that with the movie's producers, too.

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 28 January 2012 - 19:01

I had not even heard about this movie until now, but I gotta admit I love nature movies, wether it be about wolves, bears, even the man eating croc movies.

What are they hoping to achieve by boycotting this movie?  If it is because of the way they portray wolves, it won't change  the fact that if we are out for a walk and see a wolf, that we will probably be a little ( a lot?)afraid.
I love wolves, would love to see them in the wild (if I was inside and they were out) and would never intentionally hurt or harm them, but that being said, I'd still probably watch this movie.

I have a 76 yr old uncle that is single and a couple times a year heads up North (waaaay up North) on a train and hikes alone through the bush for up to two week living on beef jerky.  (He has a heck of a lot more guts than me).  Anyway, he did camp one night and have a pack of wolves surround his tent.  I can't remember exactly what they did, but my Uncle said they made it very clear  that he was not welcome there.  The next day he moved his tent.

I also have a brother who lives up North and  is a huge advocate for the bears. 
 Even though he tells me that MOST bears do not attack, that still didn't stop me from being terrified when I house sat for him one time, and was outside when a mother bear came on to the property.  I skidadled it into the house faster than you could blink and watched in awe as she brought her cubs up on to the deck and looked in the window at me.

I guess what I am trying to say is, watching this movie or not watching this movie isn't going to change much of anything IMO for the majority of us or for the wolves.  GSD's are a little different considering the breed bans.





 


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