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by Gwenith on 10 April 2012 - 20:04

Yes hopefully in confirming DM in living dogs. I too am truly sorry for all those living this disease. My dog was the best athlete you could ever meet. Now we drag him around by a harness. He has his wheelchair for outside. But isn't in it daily. I just had my hip replaced. I love him more than mine own life. If I could trade aces with him I would. I would love to have the money to help with funding. Every day I pray for more days to cherish. Gwen

Abby Normal

by Abby Normal on 10 April 2012 - 21:04

Gwenith, every one of us who has or had a dog with DM feels just the same. I saw a lady just this morning on the way to work putting her GSD into his/her cart in the car park at the local park.

Sometimes it just doesn't feel helpful to attack and undermine what we do have currently albeit not perfect, though time is still going to tell with it.  There are other ongoing projects and we must wait and hope for further developments, as we must for so many other diseases of the GSD.  I too wish that I had millions I could splash around to fund my 'pet' research projects, or those that I thought had the most merit, but sadly I haven't.

I hope you have many more days to cherish as I wish all those currently with DM dogs.  Meanwhile, please don't discourage others from testing their dogs. Even if the test proves to be flawed, the more that are tested means the more data available that will prove the veracity of the current test eventually.

marjorie

by marjorie on 10 April 2012 - 21:04

other researchers are having trouble getting dna samples because they are all being sent to U of M from neurologists.

The ofa finally made a change to their dm explanation page, where they finally seem to be acknowledging that DM of one breed might not be the same DM as another breed.

>>Although almost all dogs in the research study with confirmed DM have had A/A DNA test results, recent evidence suggest that there are other causes of DM in some breeds

Other causes.....

do you all see that- OTHER causes, indicating the test may not be valid as a cause of DM for all breeds, which is what I have been saying all along. GSDM is not corgi or Boxer DM, so if its not the same disease, the SOD1 change would not be a reliable indicator for GSDM in relation to clear, carrier or at risk. It would have no relevance at all.

I have been speaking with the OFA for quite some time now, as I feel they have thrown our breed under the bus by lumping them into the same category as corgis and boxers in relation to DM. Now that they have been faced with proof of the test not being reliable for GSDS, they would have to do something to protect themselves from a class action lawsuit, if people became so inclined. When they  make a statement that can possibly be false and present it as being valid, when they know better, they put themselves at a very high risk.  Perhaps that is why they have come to see the light and admitted there may be other causes of DM in some breeds, as in the GSD BREED!

I know when I am right, and when I am right, I wont give up. I will keep at it until I am blue in the face and I dont give a rats ass who likes or doesnt like me. The only thing I am concerned about is the breed, period, end. I am  not out to make friends- I am out to get he facts known by all.

FYI, I know Gwen has an ill dog and the heartless comment about her not having an ill dog was just plain S-I-C-K! Karma finds those who are cruel for no damn reason. One can never run or hide from their karma, so an apology to Gwen is in order. If not, you bring your bad fortune upon yourself by your own words.


Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry
BE PROACTIVE!

http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group  



 


by beetree on 10 April 2012 - 22:04

No picture. No apology necessary. Being skeptical is not equal to being cruel. Au contraire. Marjorie you are distraught, it is evident. I will give you that. Stop trying to make this personal against me. 




by Blitzen on 10 April 2012 - 23:04

I hope you have many more days to cherish as I wish all those currently with DM dogs. Meanwhile, please don't discourage others from testing their dogs. Even if the test proves to be flawed, the more that are tested means the more data available that will prove the veracity of the current test eventually

Abby has said it much better than I could have.  

What's the purpose of discouraging participation in studies that could help the breed in the future? The DNA test is non-invasive, reasonably priced, and is not intended to eliminate any dogs from a breeding program. What is this really about?


  

marjorie

by marjorie on 11 April 2012 - 00:04

Its about the truth- the whole truth  and nothing but the truth. What it is not about is politics, deception. ego  and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry
BE PROACTIVE!

http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group  

marjorie

by marjorie on 11 April 2012 - 00:04

Beetree,

In another thread you asked me for info. It never would have crossed my mind to question if you REALLY had an ill dog or ask for proof.  I am sorry, that is just horrid to me, and I do think it is cruel and not nice.

Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry
BE PROACTIVE!

http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group  

by beetree on 11 April 2012 - 00:04

My dogs' picture is there, his suffering evident. I am sure you know that.  I don't know why people want to come on this site and try to minimize any test or effort by any researcher to find an answer to this horror. That is mind boggling, I agree.  Not everyone is truthful unfortunately, and it isn't too much to ask, from the one who is leading the charge, to see if they are riding the right horse.

marjorie

by marjorie on 11 April 2012 - 00:04

People once thought the world was flat, but it wasnt, was it....The DNA DM Test, in relation to the GSD is akin to the world is flat. I cannot encourage people to contiunue to believe the world is flat when I know it isnt.


Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry
BE PROACTIVE!

http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group  

by beetree on 11 April 2012 - 00:04

How do you go about finding funders Marjorie? I am curious.





 


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