i have a question how do u know a great breeder or a bad breeder

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by starrchar on 27 June 2012 - 21:06

People pay large sums of money to adopt a child. Sometimes that money goes to the biological mother. People pay surrogate mothers to carry their child and they also pay for donor eggs or sperm. Does that make the children merchandise also?

Just because someone spends money on something doesn't make it disposable piece of merchandise.

by kitkat3478 on 27 June 2012 - 21:06

I don't believe anyone is advocating that kind of business transactions. I just don't believe people don't think a breeder should guarantee their pups. THAT is what opens the door to puppymills.

by Niesia on 27 June 2012 - 22:06

Starrchar, I won't comment on a mother that sells her baby and I won't comment on people who buy kids to adopt. I won't comment on a women who becomes surrogate mother for money and I won't comment on people who sell their own eggs or sperm for others to buy.

And yes, as soon as something is for sale - it's becoming a merchandise. People in a slave market are just a merchandise for those who buy and for those who sell. And yes, people in a slave market are as disposable as any other piece of merchandise...

by joanro on 27 June 2012 - 22:06

Puppy mills maintain through people who expect " puppy on demand" , sort of like shoes on demand. And, yes , that kind of transaction is being advocated by a poster recommending buying from Europe and NOT wanting contract...own the good, the bad, and the ugly. That's exactly what this country needs, is more us dollars going to foreign countries. We sure don't want the inept, scamming Americans to keep the $ circulating in this country.

by mollyandjack on 27 June 2012 - 22:06

So now we are arguing semantics? Regardless of what you want to class as merchandise, and sure in the broad general definition I suppose probably used by the IRS a puppy may be "merchandise"... However, a puppy is not in the same class as a microwave, should not be treated as such, and I believe that any contracts and business decisions should reflect that. Focusing on all the ways a puppy is merchandise just like a microwave is not really helpful, IMO. We already have people that treat them like appliances. JMO.

by joanro on 27 June 2012 - 22:06

Who said puppies are just like a microwave ? (microwave oven?)

by mollyandjack on 27 June 2012 - 22:06

Jenni mentioned it, I think in reference to a previous thread in which puppies were likened to appliances.

by beetree on 27 June 2012 - 22:06

LOL, I made the original reference to a retail transaction, and now it is being blown up to mean so much baloney.

by Niesia on 27 June 2012 - 23:06

Joanro, nobody said that puppies are microwaves, however the producer will not honor the warranty, if you 'abuse' your microwave, i.e. leave it outside in a rain (all alone), put 220 to 110, beat it with the baseball bat, shoot it, etc...

Did we finally go off the subject too much?

I like using allegories - it proven itself helpful for my husband to understand certain things. I compare myself often to a car battery - don't keep it charged and you will have to buy yourself another one because the old one is out of juice...

by Niesia on 27 June 2012 - 23:06

Oops... removed double post

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