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by flipfinish on 01 November 2006 - 03:11

Hey, I hate PETA too. They are whack jobs, BUT>>>>>there is documented proof of the treatment of these animals. Why does everyone want to dismiss such a horrible thing? Ignore it and it will go away? Wrong. You can see the videos for yourself, they aren't doctored or altered that I can tell. Perhaps there is a shred of truth here, i guess ask yourself this question...what if it is true????

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 01 November 2006 - 03:11

i've tried to feed eukanuba at the insistance of breeders i bought from, however i've yet to have a dog eat the stuff. makes me wonder if they did in fact feed it or just wanted me to think they did. anyway, every dog i've offered it to has turned up its nose at the stuff. hmmmm.

by jdh on 01 November 2006 - 04:11

Hey Ziegenfarm, Same story. I thought it might be EVEN BETTER. They did not, and these were GREEDY high food drive dogs. The only other thing they ever refused was oysters ( raised hackles, backed away).

by EchoMeadows on 01 November 2006 - 05:11

OK... you all know I manage a shelter here. For that I should support PETA right ? well, here's the kicker I am also an avid hunter/angler and my favorite steak is Prime Rib "Rare"... with that all being said, I do not agree with PETA's "right wing" positions on "all" of they're campaigns, However I will say this, When growing up on the ranch, my father would raise 3 to 4 beef for killing every year. But I give my dad props, he taught us kids to be kind, and to be respectful of the animal. He always used a rifle to shoot the steers in the head, so that they would be stunned and downed and therefore never "knowing" of what was happening or happened. He was attiment when teaching us how to hunt, that "placement" of the shot was critical to take the animal swiftly to minimize or completely eliminate pain. PETA is well known for they're documentary/investigational videos. They would not post such a video if they did not have some sort of proof to substantiate the evidence it carries, They would be sued into detrement of the organization and into personal financial ruin. while some humane organizations are excempt from lawsuit the individuals it employs or volunteers are NOT. I have to agree there is some legitimacy to this film, or it would never have been posted, I have to beleive if it were "doctored" or "tampered" with that someone would have been jailed, sued, prosecuted, or otherwise and that IAMS company would have made a "very big, very public, Campaign and statement" Don't get me wrong I don't necessarily "support" PETA, But I do recognize the "good" work that they do, Yes there is alot of "right wing" nonsense that comes with the organization as well, But look for the good that comes of the work they do. Well that's my .50 cents worth.

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 01 November 2006 - 05:11

Yeah.. This is crap! I would not trust what PeTA says. Check out the Petakillsanimals.com site. PeTA has been in a lot of trouble lately for allegedly dognapping (stealing dogs) and also (18 months ago) for euthanizing dogs and cats right out of a PeTA owned van which was set up as a "deathmobile". This is right after they picked up the animals and promised to find them homes. Obviously (at least to me), if the dogs were euthanized by two employees right in the van (which was set up to euthanize in), and then dumped in contractor garbage bags into dumpsters behind markets, there was never any intention to find them homes. These two employees were caught in the act during a police surveillance after store owners complained that they were finding black bags full of dead animals in their dumpsters. How embarrassing, PeTA!! You'll never live this one down! We won't let you! You'd like to do this to all of OUR dogs, too, wouldn't you? I don't THINK so!!! Check out ConsumerFreedom.com and Activistcash.com to learn the truth about scum bogus animal rights organizations and their campaigns against corporations like Iams. It's called "shakedown" fundraising. Don't give them a penny, Iams!!!

VomFelsenHof

by VomFelsenHof on 01 November 2006 - 06:11

PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)? The real PETA can't be trusted as far as one can throw them! They make up these awful animal legislation bills, like was passed in the city limits of a somewhat neighboring city to where I live! These people are nuts, but that doesn't mean that the video is any less disgusting. Some people don't deserve to even LOOK at an animal, much less have access to it's physical well-being.

by Assinhala on 01 November 2006 - 07:11

DDR-DSH - sounds like you have got a biased opinion toward PETA for some reasons that only you will know about. Sounds also like you are spouting a lot of crap. Where there is smoke there is always fire. At the front of any big company, the motivation is always money. this is more important to them than anything else, including employees!

by EDD in Afgan on 01 November 2006 - 07:11

Iams did put up a campaign against this video, Ia am a member of there breeder program and got the informatiopn on this video about 6 months ago. This is nothing new. Nothing was hidden and Iams made a public statement on there research with dogts. If you look into all dog food companies that run clinical trials on their foods they are fed to dogs with varying results. Just like alot of products are tested on animals to find the results when used by people. As far as PETA goes, doctored undoctored I would never believe anything they sponsored as there total goal is that you would never be alowed OWN ANY ANIMAL INCLUDEING YOUR DOG. Diference between Iams and Eukanubais mostly protein level. I feed both, Iams normaly and eukanuba performance to my females that are nurseing, they love both and have never had a problem, keeps the weight on them while nurseing. I am not about to switch, tried many of the so called better feeds and had dogs loose weight ect. I would definetly be very leary of any thing put out by PETA. As a friend of mine who is a statistician said, you can use the same set of numbers and show stats for something or use them another way and show them as against something, useing the same original numbers. Mike

by EchoMeadows on 01 November 2006 - 07:11

like I said before I am not "Big" fan of PETA... However I do beleive animals should be slaughtered as humanely as possible, I do beleive that dogs and cats when necessary should be Humanely Euthanized. These are some of the things that PETA has brought "good" attention to, and that I have to give credit for. Do I beleive everyone in the world should stop eating meat ? Hell NO, NOT ME !!!! Do I think every animal should be saved, NO I don't. I don't beleive in locking up a ferrell cat for the rest of it's life, cats can live to 20 plus years that's torture, more kind to euthanize in my OP. Same with dogs, should we just lock up the vicious dogs and keep them till die in a pen all alone ? NO much more kind to euthanize. So I don't agree with the "right wing" views PETA sometimes has, But I do agree with many of they're campaigns, cutting the Femoral artery of a German Shepherd dog so they can sell it's hide in China, is about as cruel as you can get. PETA is fighting this. ARE YOU ????? DDRDSH are you going to start sanctuary for unwanted animals ??? would you have them lie to the people then humanely euth the animals, or would you have them tell the people the truth and have the people cruelly dump the animals somewhere to starve, be hit by a car, be shot by a farmer, or tortured by some shit bag gang members ? What would you have them do ??? See what I see on a daily basis then come in with that all mighty attitude of PETA is nothing but crap. I'll say it once more, I do not agree with many of PETA's campaigns however I do support the no nonsense work, and "good" things they do accomplish.

Videx

by Videx on 01 November 2006 - 10:11

I certainly believe PETA, but I am not surprised that they have been systematically undermined and criticised. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE MESSAGE SHOOT THE MESSENGER





 


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