IAMS Dogfoods - PLEASE STAY AWAY!!!! - Page 6

PETA & UNCAGED ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm "Please note that everything that either Uncaged Campaigns or PETA has said about IAMS is based on documentary and/or video evidence. Make no mistake, if anything said about IAMS really was untrue or misconstrued, as IAMS would have you believe, we would have been sued and our websites taken down. We haven't." READ THE LAST SENTENCE, UNDERSTAND IT, DIGEST IT, CAREFULLY CONSIDER IT, AND THEN YOU WILL GRASP THE TRUTH

ARE MANY GSD FOLK IN "DENIAL" OVER THIS ISSUE? http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm

As I stated before; I wouldn't use IAMS on a bet. Isimply don't care for the product. I only question the motivation of people who use questionable information to defame a company. I know that many of you will find the Humane Society to be co-colaborators in this tagedy, but here is what they had to say. (Gosh, I wish I had spell check so I didn't offent GSDLVR) "The Humane Society of the United States is aware of the incident regarding the treatment and care of the animals used in the Iams pet food study. An animal activist group sent us the materials gathered by an undercover operative. We were in touch with Iams to express our concern about the matter, and they told us that they were conducting an immediate and urgent review not only of the site in question, but of all their external nutrition projects. The resulting investigation found some sites that could not meet the Iams standards and led Iams to reduce the number of external facilities. Iams decided to seek expert advice from outside the company to continue improving the conditions for the dogs and cats in their projects. Accordingly, Iams has established an International Animal Care Advisory Board to advise them on how to enhance the well-being of the dogs and cats and ensure future compliance with their nutrition research policy. Dr. Andrew Rowan of the Humane Society of the United States was asked to be on the Board and has agreed to serve. Other members include representatives of the American SPCA, Universities Federation for Animal Welfare in the UK and the Helen Woodward Animal Center in California. The HSUS also works with Iams on other projects. We believe that through these projects and the relationship they foster, we can help improve the treatment of pets, celebrate the value of the bond between pets and people, improve the overall welfare of animals and serve the specific needs of the animals that are enrolled in Iams nutrition studies. It is a major goal of The HSUS to encourage corporate and public policy changes that can have a meaningful, lasting benefit for animals."

I'm not an extremist or PETA lover, but someone is cutting up dogs and I don't see the scientific need for it. If Iams needs a board to step in a teach them how to conduct animal wealfare, they can kiss my white butt. A long time ago I used to feed Iams but it is too corny now and just overpriced junk food. It is a major goal of The HSUS to encourage corporate and public policy changes that can have a meaningful, lasting benefit for animals... Hello you idiots sell dog food ya think you would have already had that in mind!!! If somebody tells me all companies do this, I'm switching back to RAW. Nature has already done her testing. You can bet I wont buy Iams EVER again! It's a personal choice, everybody else is free to buy all they want and if sombody is worried about Iams going bankrupt, I'm still laughing. I don't think posting this on the GSD database, is going to ruin the company and I don't think this was posted with a malitious intent. I'm right there hunting and fishing with Echo, death is part of life but this needless torturing is just disgusting.

Ask Dr. Andrew Rowan of the Humane Society of the United States how many grants and the sum of monies that were given to them from Iams since the cruelty discovery. I'm sure they did ask him to be on the board...how could he say no?

GSDLVR, so the vet associations are not credible (because Iams contributes to them), but PETA (which is known to have contributed to several groups which are, frankly, terrorists- ELF, ALF, SHAC) is credible? Great double standard. Personally, I'll believe the vets over the nuts at PETA any day. PETA has been caught in lies and tampered videos before, so I will withhold judgement until a reliable source arises.

Interesting. Now GSDLVR infers that the Humane Society has an obligation to IAMS because of an illicit contribution. Does GSDLVR have inside information? Is it common for food manufacturers to make contributions to the Humane Society? Inquiring minds want to know. How deep can GSDLVR get?

spook101, I would not say yours is an inquring mind. Perhaps you should abstain from responding to issues you seem to know nothing about. This is a friendly place, GSDLVR seems to honestly care for the breed and dogs in general. Can you prove GSDLVR wrong? If not then be quiet or just go away. Having read other posts you have done, it is obvious you like to cause issues. Perhaps you could find a chat room on AOL that is more to your liking. Try "spelling 101".

I'm not the one who made the allegations. Yes, this is normally friendly, but when someone wants to attack I'm willing... To say this is a conspiracy or even complacency on the part of the Humane Society or the AVMA is ridiculous. Let GSDLVR prove his allegations or you do it for him. Attacking people who aren't here to defend themselves seems to be a favorite past time of a few people on this board. As far as spelling or grammar...I hope it bothers the crap out of you.

Like I said: Here is what everyone needs to see about PeTA! http://www.petakillsanimals.com http://www.petakillsanimals.com http://www.petakillsanimals.com http://www.petakillsanimals.com http://www.petakillsanimals.com http://www.petakillsanimals.com http://www.petakillsanimals.com http://www.petakillsanimals.com And the trouble with these lists is that they are FULL of activists. Real dog people know this. We are not so stupid and blind that we cannot see and think for ourselves. If you want to talk about "profit" and "big, greedy corporations", what are the "non-profits"? They pay HUGE salaries to their top executives (nearing half a million dollar a year, in cases), and some of them are massive operations with offices coast to coast. You think that the non-profit title means that they are ethical and their officers are not interested in money? Bullshit! All that "non-profits" means is that they are tax-exempt and don't have shareholders / investors. It doesn't mean that they aren't feeding a lot of fat hogs on big salaries. $$$ OINK!!! $$$ That tax-exempt status needs to change, I think. So-called non-profits are competing for business in many ways, and they hide behind this illusion that they are not interested in money. Again, this is bullshit! They are lobbying to create laws that interfere with the rest of us.. our rights, our businesses, our activities. It's all about money... Money and power. That's why these shrill voices are on here, spewing hate and anger and accusations. They can't deal with it any other way than their way. They're "stuck on stupid"! The activists infest these lists like crazy, and they try to shout and argue everyone down. This is how it is done in cults, by the way.. Interesting, no? A bunch of them gang up on you, get in your face, and try to shout you down and put you in such a world of hurt that you just want to crawl away and be left alone. This is how they control. They bully! Just watch them, and be the judge for yourself. You will know the tree by it's fruit. Cult tactics are now being used extensively on these lists and blogs. I've said enough.. For just what I have written, there will probably be a hoard of these activists responding. What a waste of time for everyone else!