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LMH. LOL The other dogs do the 5 miles. They would do more if I let them. She has never been able to do more than a couple miles on her good days. She sleeps even if I don't run her but I have to get her up and about, or she will lay there until she is too stiff to move. She is content just getting up 2 or 3 times a day, walking to the field across the street to do her thing and then she just looks at me like , "OK lets go back home now". She is getting so bad now she doesn't even get up to eat or drink. She does everything all at once when I make her get up. Gets a drink before we leave and eats before she lays back down. She is geriatric at 7 yrs old. She is in 80% better shape than when I recieved her. Still the muscle and healthy coat are there but no drive or gumption. She sometimes walks to the door on her own and enjoys a ride in the truck with the other dogs but I think that is just so she can pee. I'm not kidding...do dogs get post pardum?

That's too bad, 4pack. This is the girl you imported not too long ago, yes. She might have been constantly kenneled, and never even learned to play. I'm sure you do the Cosequin or equivalent routine. A friend's older whippet and dachsund (trial dogs) came back to life after being on it for a couple of weeks. I give it to my guys, even the young one--but started them before they got arthritic, so can only speculate on the benefits. Try a multi-vitamin with B-Complex, and see if she has more energy. Might work. After I posted before, we all went to the field. I spent the entire time trying to figure out how much mileage they probably do. Impossible task.

Yes I imported her last February. I have a whole host of pills I give to her or have given to her. I am sure she was kenneled allot, also mistreated. She is very flat/no personality and submisive/overly tense. Reach out to pet her, she acts like you are going to hit her. She hates to me touched and my boyfriend is affraid she will bite one of my daycare kids if they touch her in the wrong place. I don't need the liability. Didn't plan on her being a house dog but with her condition I feel I have to. I can't imagine her sitting to rot in a kennel the rest of her days. I do my best to keep her in my daughters room away from everybody. She doesn't like a bunch of hustle and bustle and my house can get quite loud. The last 10 months she has had a spoiled dogs life. Has a great orthopedic bed I spent a bundle on, sleeps in the house with AC/heat, goes on short day trips with us to see the world. Her favorite is trips to the pet store. I buy her bones and treats and try to make her life as good as I can, for her missing out on the first 6 yrs. It is hard to estimate how far the dogs go. I don't even try. I go off of my odomiter. Whatever side trips the dogs take I don't count.

http://realgsd.ca/GSDinfo/GerAm/GSDintrouble.htm this goes back to what KYLE said if you have never been to realgsd.ca , it is worth the look to take a quote from this "A bit of history: During the 70's and 80's, the Martin Brothers caused a split in the SV between show and working breeders. (Walter Martin owned the kennel name “von der Wienerau”, which produced 363 litters! within 4 years, and Hermann Martin owned the kennel name “von Arminius”, producing another 206 litters! [that was LITTERS, not puppies!]) I have the impression that they tried to mass-produce a GSD that was easier to sell to the Americans, by letting those GSDs with a sloping back win all the top positions in Germany’s national Siegershow (BSZS). The president of the SV traditionally does the judging of the top positions, which at the time happened to be Hermann Martin (Arminius). " this is fact people, you can look it up and find all the proof you need, if you are so inclined to do so.

mosemancr, in my eyes, the split has already happened. otherwise we would not be discussing "showline" and "workingline". we would simply be talking about our deutch schaferhunds!

mosemancr, in my eyes, the split has already happened. otherwise we would not be discussing "showline" and "workingline". we would simply be talking about our deutch schaferhunds!

jletcher18 - make that 40 years. Not 4 years. The SV has a limit how many litters each kennel can produce per year.

sorry, thats what happens when you copy and past. what is the limit? have they always had this limit? if no, when did it start? seems it would be easy to have a kennel in my name, one in wifes name, another in a kids name, etc.

Jletcher18, the "normal" limit per S.V. guidelines is a maximum of ten (10) litters per year per kennel. That said, some of the larger kennels do farm out the birth and care for some of their litters to host kennels that they know and trust. That way, more than ten (10) litters can be produced annually while giving excellent attention to the puppies. Very common practice? Not so much. This tends to be a practice of the very well-established German kennels that have operated for decades and produced a lot of champions. It allows the production of more litters for revenue while maintaining the quality of the kennel's name. Bob-O

I was under the impression that ten is the maximimum number of litters any breeder can register under his or her kennel name per year, regardless of whether the kennel uses a "team" approach to raise litters at some place other than the primary kennel location. For example, there could be no more than 10 "von Batu" litters registered per year even though there are multiple locations.