i think i need a lawyer - Page 2

post reading about your own dogs finding a kennel that would put a pad lock and you stating that you cant guarantee they wont bite makes me wonder if your own dog bit you....while your neighbor dog who may have been on your property was actually trying to leave....

 

Steve:  let's not take this too far off topic, but I would never have
thought the spaces  [approx. 5" x 4" oblongs] in the wire fence
where I saw it happen would have stretched sufficiently -  but
​this one did, honestly.  Large adult male GSD = pretty big head;
went up to the fence to investigate the 'pack' on the other side,
three or four of them literally dragged his head through the wire.
Happened in seconds.  We had a hell of a job to get him back out.
So I can well imagine something similar happening in VK's case.

Hundmutter
You seem to have a habit picking me up on posts the reasons known only to yourself. I am not off topic at all. i simply said how could a dog get its head through a Wire Fence which is supposed to be safe unless it was already damaged. Now i do not know the size of the holes in Sheep Fencing in Australia, USA or G.B now but over where i live the holes are square and the size of the squares is 2.5 Inches by 2.5 inches , the Fencing is 16th of an inch thick galvanized sometimes plastic coated. Anyone who uses materials which are not suitable for the job should know better That size holes you describe is not suitable to keep big dogs fenced in or is it strong enough so people who use it should not complain when accidents happen but use there common sense and i have no patience the those who do not use it. My female will clear a fence of 5ft plus high without a run at it so i have now a fence made of Steel Posts and it is Chain link metal, 7ft-6 inches high This cannot be seen by the public as the garden backs on to farm land, If folk want to keep big dogs then they must make sure they are safe from other animals and that they cannot  cause damage? now perhaps this letter has gone off topic
Steve1

You should have seen a dr at that time as it is your word against your neighbor, whose dog bit you. Immediate documentation no matter what country is very important.  My constable in my county told me how to end our neighbors letting dogs run loose and coming to my fences and putting their heads thru a Cattle fence with 4 " and 3" Squares of welded wire.
My son set a trap and we trapped them and called the law to come get them...ended the community vagabonds coming in my area. A lot of strays are dumped in the country and we deal with that also.

DID you take a pic with a camera of the dog on your property?? then I suggest you get a camera and keep your dogs in the back yard, I would not subject my dogs to any mouth now knowing their dog got his head thru a mesh.
You need a kennel in back yard for your dogs not a mesh containment..Mesh is not for gsd,,

Always report any incident and let the facts show..Always keep your dogs vacination and papers handy and the dog sheriff or the animal control person should be called the minute you saw the dogs trespassing..

Owning a gsd of any kind is a responsibility and you end up being the 80% prevention manager and the party to be on patrol and ready at all times for what MAY happen
Get a lesson on how to get two dogs apart either way;;;by contact or with a fence between them . IT is not easy but a long leash and the knowledge of what to do may save you a stomach, finger or a face.

YR

Steve, not 'picking up' on you @ all;  was addressing myself as much as
anything with saying I didn't want to drive the thred off topic, cos not my thred,
by discusssing the sort of fence involved in great detail.
But did want to say how this can happen, in defence agin your rather curt post
addressed to the OP (who I wouldn't normally defend, {lol!}, but it was obvious
you were making some assumptions about what you consider possible
or not, and the type of wire fencing involved).  No, we don't know what
sort of wire it was;  could well be sheep fencing, in Oz.  So we cannot
assume it was the sort of mesh used for purpose-built kennels / dog
enclosures. Or even ought to have been.  It was ordinary sheep fencing in my case
cited, too;  it was surrounding a big field, not a dog-specific enclosure. [ If you wanted
to tell my then boss what sort of fences he should put around WITHIN his 500 acre estate,
(this was not an 'outer' fenceline), good luck to you, he wouldn't have taken it from me.]  
A random check of that particular fencing, with that aparture-size, would have seemed
that the corners could not be stretched much out of shape without a very great deal of force,
and tools.  So who knew the dogs could manage it, and therefore the fencing might be
inappropriate ?  This was an extreme, one-off event - but it still happened.

steve yr a real upbeat guy at times, BTW my hand is fine, stop stressing and thanks for asking.....

hund, you got it, my fence is sheep fence we call ring-lock high tensile about 3mm steel with variable size mesh, close to ground the mesh is small to prevent lambs and vermin/foxes  getting thru, most animals prefer to go low thru an obstacle than go over it.  then it gets bigger as you go vertical. the biggest mesh a normal size dog can get its snout thru without touching the sides, prolly around the diameter of a dogs head roughly so it can be pulled thru up to the neck/shoulders but will stretch the mesh in doing so. as it is high tensile it will snap at some point. in this case as i was trying to disengage the dogs two sides of the mesh snapped one by one, it was an unsettling sound as they snapped and the dog got pulled further in - all this takes seconds and i doubt many dog owners carry a break stick around or would have launched themselves straight in the middle to save somebody else's dog that was roaming free picking fights on it's own with a pack dead game hunting dogs. giving myself credit that can not be assessed after the fact on the internet.

the neighbor is a staunch guy -  former soldier, he does not seem to have a problem so far, the only thing he said was the idiot dog won't go sticking his head in that fence again. only issue is women folk there might get in his ear, but hey not much defense for a roaming dog according to our laws especially when a human has been bit by it.

This just keeps getting better and better! The truth is, a dog isn't that easy to kill. No way you needed to launch in the middle to save the dog lol. The best is,"dead game hunting dogs" ..........ROFLMFAO...........More drama doesn't hide the fact, you have no idea what you're doing, and you panicked and got dog bit.

Vk4gsd,
 I think we have similar neighbors, well least yours is taking some responsibility, and not sending their small children over crying about their poor little dog, like mine LoL.. I'd be careful asking your local animal control about leash laws and dog bite questions, they might get nosey and stop by for a visit.. But I think you are sharp enough to know how to ask, without giving out specifics ;)  A dog biting a human is always a more serious offense, than another dog, here in the US, you'd have the better argument, since it happened on your land and their dog bit you.. Hope everything works out for you..  I know it's stressful having neighbor's loose dogs running all over, aggravating your dogs..

sure abhay, you are talking straight out yr butt. always interesting people on the internet know more about, what, how and when on any topic than people 2 inches away from the actual event. thanks for yr most informative analysis.

keep talking hero.


erin, will take a bottle of rum over to neighbor this weekend and try get a conclusion. thanks for kind words, always an anxious time wondering how things will play out.

don't mention it "dead game danny!"  Thanks for the laughs!