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by Two Moons on 29 October 2013 - 11:10
Looks like we're having fun again........
Police with no guns...yeah right.
Free people without guns yeah right.
This isn't the UK either.
Bee I'm gonna start calling you RED.
It boils down to bad management, bad policies, poorly trained individuals and some who should have never been hired in the first place, bad all round for man and beast.
You guys can whine about guns all you like, but at least here in America you wouldn't be living in a free America without them, and the day may come when you need them once more, not for your personal safety but for your very life.
Anyone who'd send cash to these idiots, well they've probably done worst already, probably give money to people like PETA.
And remember, people are being treated in the same manner here as these dogs have been, where's your outrage over that?
Police with no guns...yeah right.
Free people without guns yeah right.
This isn't the UK either.
Bee I'm gonna start calling you RED.
It boils down to bad management, bad policies, poorly trained individuals and some who should have never been hired in the first place, bad all round for man and beast.
You guys can whine about guns all you like, but at least here in America you wouldn't be living in a free America without them, and the day may come when you need them once more, not for your personal safety but for your very life.
Anyone who'd send cash to these idiots, well they've probably done worst already, probably give money to people like PETA.
And remember, people are being treated in the same manner here as these dogs have been, where's your outrage over that?
by Gigante on 29 October 2013 - 11:10
Kitkat3478, That was one issue I thought to myself when I found the link, regarding the movie, the title. Its does show a hard slant to the sensensational. Thats an inherent in movie makers and keyboard warriors, Its my hope that's corrected in the end, since they use the term documentary. If they stay true to purpose and show the after effects of the damage to normal everyday people who, through no fault of their own, had their lives ripped apart in vary degrees by human error and some cases serious callousness for life & liberty, then in the end this will be a solid project.
by Gigante on 29 October 2013 - 12:10
| It boils down to bad management, bad policies, poorly trained individuals and some who should have never been hired in the first place, bad all round for man and beast. |
by beetree on 29 October 2013 - 12:10
Moons,
Red=Red Sable, don't confuse people. I am all in it for the entertainment, now. I admit there is talent! He has it, for impromptu creative writing. Draws me like a moth to flame, I guess!
Red=Red Sable, don't confuse people. I am all in it for the entertainment, now. I admit there is talent! He has it, for impromptu creative writing. Draws me like a moth to flame, I guess!
by Two Moons on 29 October 2013 - 14:10
No Bee,
RED=your text method of expressing yourself, and no one was confused about that at all.
Gigante,
read the posts of others and you'd see where the reference to guns came up.
People may very well care more about animals than they do each other, seems that way more often than not.
Those are the Nine.
You two seem to have business so I'm outta here, there's not much else to say.
RED=your text method of expressing yourself, and no one was confused about that at all.
Gigante,
read the posts of others and you'd see where the reference to guns came up.
People may very well care more about animals than they do each other, seems that way more often than not.
Those are the Nine.
You two seem to have business so I'm outta here, there's not much else to say.
by mrdarcy on 29 October 2013 - 15:10
Keep the personal insults out, thank you. mrdarcy.
by RockyGSD on 30 October 2013 - 16:10
I am more of a lurker on this board than a contributing poster but I thought I would throw in a officer's fiance's perspective.
Every night I fall asleep with the phone on loud, next to me. Just incase something happens, I can atleast make it to the hospital and say goodbye.
My fiance has been punched, kicked, spit on, and shot at by people. He has only pointed his gun at someone twice.
Although he has yet to kill a dog, he has pointed his gun and threatened to shoot a dog about 11-12 times.
In 'rough' neighborhoods, the owners sick their dogs on police officers and their are aggressive dogs roaming the neighborhood. Usually pit or pit mixes. Sometimes rotties or shepherds, but not as common.
In 'nice' neighborhoods, owners leave their dogs in backyards. The other day my fiance was chasing a man who had just raped his girfriend's 13 year old duaghter through a neighborhood. He jumped a fence to follow him and was almost mauled by a pitbull. He was able to kick it hard enough to stun it and jump the next fence into a different backyard.
In my opinion, he would have been 100% justified to shoot the dog. Yes, it is YOUR backyard. However, he was trying to catch a bad guy that had raped a young girl and had warrants out for unlawful possession (he had prior felonies). He did not have time to taze the dog, call animal control, etc....If I were him and it came at me again I would have killed it.
As for dogs off leash outside of backyards....I know 2 officers personally that were forced to retire due to bites from a pitbull and a rottweiler that mangled their shooting arm/hand and one of their legs.
I tell my fiance every week that if a dog ever charges him growling and snarling, shoot it. No "read his body language" or "take the bite and not kill the dog" crap. To me, that is just stupid.
A dog is not worth my fiance's life. A dog is not worth my fiance losing his job. A dog is not work the smallest of bites on his hand or leg.
I carry concealed on every walk I take my German Shepherd. After 3 pitbull attacks in a neighborhood where the cheapest homes are 300,000 I don't believe "its the owner not the dog" crap. I h ave rich neighbors who train the crap out of their pitbulls or labs or shepherds and love them to death....but some dogs are aggressive and not manageable. If a dog ever attacks my shepherd, I will shoot it with no feeling of remourse or even an apology to the owner. They put me and my dog in danger. Why should I apologize for stopping or preventing it.
We live in a society of victims. Everyone is looking to find someone who is limiting their rights or infringing on their rights. People need to have common sense.
All these LEO haters obviously have never even so much as been on a ride a long. Have you noticed there are 1000s of videos condemning officer yet almost 0 videos of police officers defending their actions? Very one sided. Just as most of you blame the media for pitbull bad rep, I blame the media for officer bad rep.
To the person who said that they would die before they let an officer shoot their dogs------you need a therapist, a friend, a wife, or a child. Someone to bring you back to reality and realize that dogs are animals. When they die, you get a new one. You cry for a few months, still think of them later, but 90% of the time you replace them within 4-6 months. They are not humans.
I love my shepherd with all of my heart. But A> I never leave him in the backyard alone B> He is always on leash C>He has perfect recall D>He goes to his kennel when the front door opens.
If you stop complaining about your dog getting shot and instead teach ways to prevent it, it won't happen.
Also, the local 5 counties probably shoot 6-10 dogs a week here and it never makes the news because most of the officers have pit bulls and most of the dogs they have to kill are pit bulls.....they don't want their breed getting a bad name and getting banned in our city. I bet you had no idea about that. Because the police don't care to defend themselves against people who have absolutely. no. idea.
Every night I fall asleep with the phone on loud, next to me. Just incase something happens, I can atleast make it to the hospital and say goodbye.
My fiance has been punched, kicked, spit on, and shot at by people. He has only pointed his gun at someone twice.
Although he has yet to kill a dog, he has pointed his gun and threatened to shoot a dog about 11-12 times.
In 'rough' neighborhoods, the owners sick their dogs on police officers and their are aggressive dogs roaming the neighborhood. Usually pit or pit mixes. Sometimes rotties or shepherds, but not as common.
In 'nice' neighborhoods, owners leave their dogs in backyards. The other day my fiance was chasing a man who had just raped his girfriend's 13 year old duaghter through a neighborhood. He jumped a fence to follow him and was almost mauled by a pitbull. He was able to kick it hard enough to stun it and jump the next fence into a different backyard.
In my opinion, he would have been 100% justified to shoot the dog. Yes, it is YOUR backyard. However, he was trying to catch a bad guy that had raped a young girl and had warrants out for unlawful possession (he had prior felonies). He did not have time to taze the dog, call animal control, etc....If I were him and it came at me again I would have killed it.
As for dogs off leash outside of backyards....I know 2 officers personally that were forced to retire due to bites from a pitbull and a rottweiler that mangled their shooting arm/hand and one of their legs.
I tell my fiance every week that if a dog ever charges him growling and snarling, shoot it. No "read his body language" or "take the bite and not kill the dog" crap. To me, that is just stupid.
A dog is not worth my fiance's life. A dog is not worth my fiance losing his job. A dog is not work the smallest of bites on his hand or leg.
I carry concealed on every walk I take my German Shepherd. After 3 pitbull attacks in a neighborhood where the cheapest homes are 300,000 I don't believe "its the owner not the dog" crap. I h ave rich neighbors who train the crap out of their pitbulls or labs or shepherds and love them to death....but some dogs are aggressive and not manageable. If a dog ever attacks my shepherd, I will shoot it with no feeling of remourse or even an apology to the owner. They put me and my dog in danger. Why should I apologize for stopping or preventing it.
We live in a society of victims. Everyone is looking to find someone who is limiting their rights or infringing on their rights. People need to have common sense.
All these LEO haters obviously have never even so much as been on a ride a long. Have you noticed there are 1000s of videos condemning officer yet almost 0 videos of police officers defending their actions? Very one sided. Just as most of you blame the media for pitbull bad rep, I blame the media for officer bad rep.
To the person who said that they would die before they let an officer shoot their dogs------you need a therapist, a friend, a wife, or a child. Someone to bring you back to reality and realize that dogs are animals. When they die, you get a new one. You cry for a few months, still think of them later, but 90% of the time you replace them within 4-6 months. They are not humans.
I love my shepherd with all of my heart. But A> I never leave him in the backyard alone B> He is always on leash C>He has perfect recall D>He goes to his kennel when the front door opens.
If you stop complaining about your dog getting shot and instead teach ways to prevent it, it won't happen.
Also, the local 5 counties probably shoot 6-10 dogs a week here and it never makes the news because most of the officers have pit bulls and most of the dogs they have to kill are pit bulls.....they don't want their breed getting a bad name and getting banned in our city. I bet you had no idea about that. Because the police don't care to defend themselves against people who have absolutely. no. idea.
by Hundmutter on 31 October 2013 - 03:10
Rocky, all you have said is just fine in terms of what passes for
'normal' Police work; you are entitled to that opinion, and nobody
should be insulting them just for doing their difficult job.
But its really off topic for this thred - nothing you have said
justifies or excuses some things that are shown in the OP's video.
Did you actually bother to watch it, before 'going off on one' about
'cop haters' and people who value their dogs more than humans ?
Talking about actual CONTENT here, not general 'pro' and
'anti' law enforcement, or armed versus unarmed police ...
'normal' Police work; you are entitled to that opinion, and nobody
should be insulting them just for doing their difficult job.
But its really off topic for this thred - nothing you have said
justifies or excuses some things that are shown in the OP's video.
Did you actually bother to watch it, before 'going off on one' about
'cop haters' and people who value their dogs more than humans ?
Talking about actual CONTENT here, not general 'pro' and
'anti' law enforcement, or armed versus unarmed police ...
by Jenni78 on 31 October 2013 - 11:10
Wow, Rocky, some pretty cold statements:
A dog is not worth my fiance losing his job. A dog is not worth the smallest of bites on his hand or leg.
To the person who said that they would die before they let an officer shoot their dogs------you need a therapist, a friend, a wife, or a child. Someone to bring you back to reality and realize that dogs are animals. When they die, you get a new one. You cry for a few months, still think of them later, but 90% of the time you replace them within 4-6 months. They are not humans.
by RockyGSD on 31 October 2013 - 11:10
Jenni 78
Your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Officers don't post a video every time they get bit by a dog....which is triple to quadruple the amount of times a dog is shot.
No dog is worth a bite to any part of my fiance, me, a family member, or the public. If I ever see a dog bite someone, I will cull the probably instantly. I think you can infer what I mean by cull.
My fiance is risking his life to save humans....not dogs. Keep your dogs contained and trained....95% of the time there is no problem
There are definitely "roguue" cops out there that stink. However, this puppycide video shows about 1% of what really happens.
The number one way to keep your dog safe is train it for emergencies and don't leave it in your backyard.
Your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Officers don't post a video every time they get bit by a dog....which is triple to quadruple the amount of times a dog is shot.
No dog is worth a bite to any part of my fiance, me, a family member, or the public. If I ever see a dog bite someone, I will cull the probably instantly. I think you can infer what I mean by cull.
My fiance is risking his life to save humans....not dogs. Keep your dogs contained and trained....95% of the time there is no problem
There are definitely "roguue" cops out there that stink. However, this puppycide video shows about 1% of what really happens.
The number one way to keep your dog safe is train it for emergencies and don't leave it in your backyard.
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