Puppycide: The Documentary - Page 9

Well, thanks joanro. Now I KNOW I'll get lots of dislikes since YOU like it! LOL!

LMAO!!!

I never addressed the video -- I addressed what happens in real life, 95% of the time. The video is not the "norm". The video is a few incidents that were completely, horribly wrong. What I have been trying to point out is that not all officers are like this.

Jenni just said it herself----her cousin works in a horrible area and has never witnessed an officer shoot a dog. It is not necessary and it rarely happens. (When I say rarely I mean based on the amount of encounters with vicious dogs vs the amount shot....not the amount that you hear about on the news). Unless you work for a police department or are related to an officer, it is impossible to know this data. Officers are not required to and do not waste the time to write down every vicious dog encounter they have. Because dogs are not their job, as I have been stating.

When an officer has to shoot a dog, you would not believe how bad many of them feel. Most officers have dogs at home and four of our officers have german shepherds and malinios partners and are sad when they have to kill dogs (typically pit mixes :(

All of you are quick to defend pit bulls and say that the media misconstrues the facts and only shows bad stories of pits and puts misleading facts....but then you believe the same media when they make up these statistics about officers?

I do not believe all officers are good. I would bet there is a good 10% that are bad people. However, I do not believe that they, as a whole, are bad. which is how gigante posed this.

Jenni--- everyone knows what a catch pole is. However, when there is a crazy, aggressive pit trying to attack you and a woman is dying, officers don't have time to waste it on a dog that is going crazy. If someone's "service dog" was doing this, I would question why the dog was a service dog in the first place.

I do not think pit bulls as a breed are bad -- I use pit bulls as an example because of the city that my fiance works in.....a lot of low income households that have their pits on chains or roaming the yard.
 

I can't find the link, but there was a story last year in the Toronto news about a police officer who went out of his way to tazer an aggressive pitbull type dog that had bitten both another dog and a person.

Kudos to him! Shooting the dog should be the last resort. And, of course, so should be shooting a person. There's a case before the courts now in Toronto where an officer has been suspended and charged with 2nd degree murder for shooting a teen 9 times. The teen was armed only with a 3 inch long knife, and zero attempts were made at negotiation. He had allowed all the passengers to exit the streetcar he was on, and not tried to take anyone hostage. 

Not acceptable, not at all. Just like those video clips of the cops shooting the dogs that were tied up or restrained with catch poles.

I do not believe all officers are good. I would bet there is a good 10% that are bad people. However, I do not believe that they, as a whole, are bad. which is how gigante posed this.

Too much buzzing of bee in the ear has lead to your serious inner ear issue. Please show me the post or comment from me, that posed, all officers are bad people. Bad people are bad people no matter their profession. Shining a light on the weak and disturbed within a profession is not bashing the ones doing it right. Many of the personal post's above and the "other" thread reflect officers having never fired on pets, with years of experience and hundreds of altercations with animals. That has always proved to me that the mindset, integrity and training is the issue.
 

The mindset needs to be focusing on adequate training to avoid lethal force against ANY innocents, not that the rest of us will just need to deal with it when a cop shoots our dog in our yard.

Why the cheerleaders have such a hard time swallowing such a simple and uncomplicated mindset is really hard to understand. Jenni's statement should be an agree or disagree on all entrance exams. I can tell you that all officers I know, and the officers on the several ride along's I have been on, all would check the agree box. Like the other posters, I don't hangout or have friends that feel scratches are best avoided, by gunfire, that's a mindset for the weak or jack booted, in either case, no thanks.

The mindset needs to be focusing on adequate training to avoid lethal force against ANY innocents, not that the rest of us will just need to deal with it when a cop shoots our dog in our yard.

This is your opinion. Not a fact or something that "needs to happen"

Dogs are not humans. There is no "innocent" or "guilty". There is aggressive, not aggressive, hindering EMS from saving their owners life, or not.

The mindset needs to be that dogs are pets. They are our beloved pets, but they are animals.

Regardless of the amount of complaining on this dog board, the general public does not believe a dog's life is worth the maiming of a human or the death of a human while the dog is subdued.

You can continue complaining for ten years. Instead of doing so why don't you start raising funds----do you think someone will train every officer in every department for free?

I don't get people who hide behind message boards spouting hate and complaints but do nothing about it in real life. You can be first --- donate your money towards a program to train officers about dogs.

That is about 24/hour per officer, in a small department about 30 officers...plus however much the trainer charges. If the trainer is free, that is 720 dollars for one hour of training. And before you start complaining again, officers aren't going to spend the time they could be with their families to take a dumb class about dogs when their job is to save humans.