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lawhyno

by lawhyno on 28 January 2014 - 06:01


When you purchase an import and realize you can't trust the assessment of people you don't know personally. Just got a female with "high potentia"l on paper but that I will absolutely not reproduce. I'm giving her away because I can't use her. Just a lesson to share kiddos. 

greyhoundgirl

by greyhoundgirl on 28 January 2014 - 07:01

I'd say you got taken. A dog with high drives isn't going to react like this. She shouldn't be timid or laid back even from the beginning. I would understand a little standoffishness, but not like you are describing. She may well be a perfectly nice dog after she adjusts, but isn't going to be what you were told she was going to be.

Extreme ball drive makes for easy training and is a wonderful thing. I suspect when you were told she didn't have that and had just normal ball drive, they meant she was a lower drive dog.

EduCanine

by EduCanine on 28 January 2014 - 07:01

Sounds somewhat dubious to me. My only thought in a positive defence of the dogs non-drivey behavior is that maybe she's just very poorly socialized and a more sensitive dog that may (grasping draws here) show her drive later.

with that said, the breeder sounds ignorant about drive behaviors and possessive aggression. Of course, it may have been a miscommunication, too.

This isn't to say your pup won't improve with time. Maybe take time bond building without performance pressure on her and just allow her to relax. After that you can always have her professionally evaluated.

susie

by susie on 28 January 2014 - 09:01

Did you see her in her own surrounding?
Was she raised in a pack or as a single dog?
 

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 28 January 2014 - 12:01

You are going to have to find, and build her motivators.  I have a couple dogs that their drives could be considered "extreme".
Some dogs, as mine, ARE NOT motivated by food.
   You said she had little, to no training. She does not have a clue, what you are expecting of her. Some dogs are more satisfied with a "good dog" over a hot dog.
    I would try seversl things until you find what she likes. Something as simple as a squeeky rubber ducky could flip the switch for her.
Some dogs do take longer adjusting to change. I find my DDR dogs, always try to stay one step shead of me, alwsys thinking.

by Gustav on 28 January 2014 - 12:01

I have found very few DDR dogs with extreme drives, especially the type she described to you. And I used to breed these lines. Sounds like the dog is very soft and probably has not been socialized further than her first home. At the age she is, her basic temperament should travel with her. She may become more comfortable with you and your surroundings with time....but she will not probably be the strong confident dog that exemplifies this breed. It is probably a combination of environment and genetics. Many DDR dogs today, are very soft and more pet like than working temperament.

by gsdstudent on 28 January 2014 - 12:01

lead with your brain and not with your wallet. The first thread you started received a lot of attention. You should have gone to see the types of training you questioned about [ IPO, KNVP, or PSA]. You should have spent enough time watching the handlers/trainers that were impressive to you, a novice. You should have learned what they did to have the dog and preformance that impressed you. Did they develope the dog/training themselves? Did they buy that ''push-button'' dog which gave them instance success? I hope this thread does not turn into the DDR blood against the world or the breeder you bought from is at fault, or I bought a dog from this same breeder and he/she walks on water. This could be a great forum. You should learn from every person you meet here [ it might be never to do anything like that person has done] You should love the dog you bought and start to learn about the breed and training. 

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 28 January 2014 - 13:01

I will admit, my one DDR female is rather laid back, still plenty of drive tho, and my female kali v ludwigseck has the kind of drive anyone would classify as extreme. She does not want to quit, she is also the screamer when she can't get out the door with everyone else,"fast enough".
   The male I have from her and my Bullinger boy, is also very drivey. Just MUCH MORE controlled.
I don t use food as a motivator.

by frankm205 on 28 January 2014 - 13:01

Was this dog imported? Did she fly to your location? I find that there are times when dogs fly to a new country it takes a while for them to settle into their new environment. Give it some time and continue playing and exposing her to new environments. You may just see the dog you hoped for in there. 

by joanro on 28 January 2014 - 14:01

Twelve months old and "no training whatsoever"?
Did you think to ask the breeder if the dog was raised by the breeder and if the breeder was the only home the dog had ever had? If the dog has been bounced around with no concistancy, that can undermine a young dog's self confidence if they have a naturally soft temperament as you have described.
I agree that you should give her time to bond with you, with no performance pressure. You bought her and you now owe it to her to make the best of things. Give her a good home and both of you can learn together.





 


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