** Steep croup/top line from top breeders ** Is this normal? - Page 73

Freddie is very beautiful indeed, good head, good topline, good proportions, wish his rear was a bit less angulated. A beautiful boy, not heavy, looks agile,dry with strong ligaments, maybe except the pasterns.

Ibrahim one the three you mentioned had the 'horrible head' I was referring to. At least I think it was him, as I haven't looked through them all again to be sure, but I really don't like the head. I won't specify the dog, as it would be impolite to do so.  I now have a thing about heads having looked at all these dogs.

I think Djambo is just as angulated as Freddie, but all have too much rear angulation for my taste. But that's just me.

Mr.GSD on 21 September 2011 - 11:09 Posts: 29
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2003 08:40 pm

Reply from Fred Lanting:   Sorry to jump in so late, but I usually don't "do" chat lists etc unless someone points (or shoves) me into one, tyhinking I may be able to help. The article on angulations front and rear that one person ("pod") referred to, is available on some websites such as http://vonjagenstadt.com/articles.html  -(or)- siriusdog.com/sphider/search.php?query=lanting&search=1  -(or)- www.FredLanting.org , but also in my book, "The Total German Shepherd Dog".  The excessively curved topline began in the era (1970s & 80s) when the Martin brothers ruled the SV (including what dogs won the Sieger shows) and heavily influenced the look of the breed all over the world. If I knew how to attach a photo, I'd show you the extreme to which this trend reached in Australia and elsewhere. But if anyone wants a copy, let me know how to do that and I'll post again. Tell me at Mr.GSD @netscape.com.   Fred
 

      

Supplied by Fred lanting  -


GSD toplines started suffering in the late 1970s






Very good rear angulation – GSD






Trommel’s Jasmine –correct structure = correct trot

     

Supplied by Fred Lanting - 


Front assembly traced from radiograph





Where to measure layback angle





Rear angulation

This thread was very educational for me. Thanks to all you knowledgeable people.