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by zdog on 21 June 2014 - 13:06

when I start arguing that the standards are different I'll tell you.  In the meantime, I will maintain my ascertion that the dogs are very different.  ANybody with a functioning eyeball can see that and anybody that works dogs thinks them a completely different breed.

So, why with words on paper so similar, do the rest of the world and the AKC have such different dogs?  

words on paper, dogs in front of you.  Do you know the difference?


by Blitzen on 21 June 2014 - 13:06

Can we please leave out the personal likes and dislkes just for this one thread? I didn't generate it to learn who thinks which dogs are the best, I think we have already figured that out long ago. I only want to try to understand why some are so anxious to condemn the GSDCA for wanting to keep the AKC breed standard rather than switch to the FCI one.  What would be the benefit for the breed? Is there a benefit to switching to the FCI standard? I don't see it if there is....show me.


by zdog on 21 June 2014 - 13:06

ok, my personal likes and dislikes aside, why is it that with such similar standards, one org has such a completely different dog over the dogs bred to a different "standard" around the rest of the world?  Why do you think that is?  


by Blitzen on 21 June 2014 - 14:06

I don't know and right now I don't care, that's not what this thread is about, Zdog, and you damned well know it.

Once again for the cheap seats in the back - exactly which part/s of the FCI standard are so different from the AKC standard that switching would benefit the breed? I don't care which dogs are better or who likes GSL's, WGL's,  ASL's. It a non-issue. Why is it valid to argue against the GSDCA's being able to launch a program that could benefit the breed in the long run based only on their refusal to switch to the FCI standard when it describes the same dog as the AKC standard in even less specific terms?


by zdog on 21 June 2014 - 14:06

damned well huh?  Gotta love people that want a debate, then want to re-frame every arguement so they can "win" LOL

Anyway, again for the willfully obtuse way back in the Uecker seats, exactly WHY is it that one org using a similar standard over the past 100 years has developed a dog that is so completely different from the rest of the world?  Why would it be valid to argue that after 100 years the GSDCA is going to launch a program that is going to benefit the breed in the long run, when they haven't and still have no desire to change?  It's not like they haven't had an opporutnity to do something with the breed.LOL  And why do their words on paper matter so much when the dogs are so clearlyl different?


by Blitzen on 21 June 2014 - 14:06

Never mind, Zdog, have a good day. I have never reframed this thread; I've been asking the same thing from the start. I'm still waiting for the answer.


by zdog on 21 June 2014 - 15:06

No?  You know the answer, you just want to be put into words that you want one to use.  You can read correct?  you know the words on the paper aren't very different?  yes? No?  do you need an interpreter?  You also have working eyeballs yes?  you can see that they are very different types of dogs? can't you?  

So then I ask, with so much on paper so similar, why are the dogs so different?  You answer you're waiting to hear is NO, the words on the paper aren't going to change anything.  There, you've won your argument of words on paper.  So, move past that now, and answer, Why are the dogs so different?  why do you think? when the words are so similar? and why do you think an entire continent and org using the same standard has such different dogs than the rest of the world? Is it because of the words on paper?

although I don't think the premise of those arguing that the GSDCA doesn't follow the standard the rest of the world does was merely about words on paper.  I thought that was pretty obvious.  Unless of course you want to frame an argument to fit your already concieved answer.  

So, to summarize again, the words? for all intents and purposes are the same.  The dogs? very, very different.  hmmmmmmmmmmm


by Blitzen on 21 June 2014 - 15:06

I can't read correctly? How about you stop spinning it all around and just answer my one and only very simple question - how would it benefit the breed if the GSDCA switched from the AKC standard to the FCI standard? Copy the post where I asked anything different.


by zdog on 21 June 2014 - 15:06

evidently you can't, already asked and answered, but again, The words aren't going to change the dog.  The words on paper are so similar I'll just call them the same.  The dogs on the other hand are very different.  Why?


by Blitzen on 21 June 2014 - 15:06

You have not given one example of any part of the FCI standard that would benefit the breed more than the AKC one. If so I missed it, copy it here.






 


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