royalties for titles - Page 2

Hunt is not prey and looking for a person on crack at 200AM in a huge building is not prey, its deadly serious and you better hope when you do find him, if you do your dog is not some prey monster looking for prey. Police dogs are police dogs, sport dogs are sport dogs, end of. Just like you said, dogs bred for herding are easier to train in herding...dogs bred for sport should stay in sport.

so hired dog, we will only breed the dogs you evaluate as worthy together to make an ideal breed. get cracking you have a huge job to do

Show me the dogs....

go find them. please let me know where you travel. I can not afford to be a trail blazer but i will follow a good leader. 

I agree with most what is being said here by many. Except " Hunt is not prey and looking for a person on crack at 200AM in a huge building is not prey"?  Hired dog - Are you trying to say that:" Police work is not just prey? "  That is since hunt obviously is facilitated by prey. 

Prager Hans

Since the Originator of this thread is posing a hypothetical question as to royalty payments to previous titles in a pedigree are you talking about the present dogs titles or the titles in the previos dogs to this breeding?

 

What i am trying to say hans is that your dog better be real and not a prey monkey when said suspect decides he is not going to jail.

Hunt is a dogs ability and desire to look for something you cant see, strictly speaking. I am sute everyone knows what facilitates it hans, no need to get technical or nit pick the obvious, yes?

Hired, I know we differ about this point, but today out of my personal experience around 95 % of all police dogs at least in Germany are direct offspring of "sport dogs ", most of them were trained for sport before they are sold to police.
Up to the seventies, early eighties police asked for "civil" dogs, but a lot of these "civil" dogs did have major nerve issues ( not stable at all ), they were fine as long as obedience in society wasn´t important. Today there is almost no job for them any more, some of the "crazy ones" still are used at some borders in the nowhere ( Israel, South Africa ), but in modern countries they are a no-go.

A TRAINED dog doesn´t mind biting a sleeve or a suit, it´s just training. Don´t tell me, that´s not true, I used to "switch" sport dogs for police for quite a while. Even the No1 police dog, the Malinois, is a prey monster, they are just trained to bite the suite...give me it´s favorite toy, and almost none will bite me...

The "civil" dogs you like ( and I like them, too ) are a tightrope walk, they are seldom, they are a lot of responsibility for their owners.

Right now there is a race between Malinois and German Shepherd - the more drives and especially prey drive,the better. I really hope the Malinois will stay the winner...

This is a good conversation.  Here is my question. If i am to pay a royalty to a previous handler who titled a dog or dogs in a pedigree then i want a title that shows my dogs Character, Physical agility and Mental toughness and Heart. Can anyone tell me what parts of IPO tests any of these things?