Not sure if my dog is a GSD like I was told - Page 4

Yes, size is hard to control in any breed of DOG. Anyone who breeds enough will sooner or later end up with a dog that is oversized regardless of the breed. I've owned/bred several myself, 2 were purebred GSD's,  a Dingo g-grandson and a Lasso g-g grandson.

Kodiak's Mom, enjoy your dog. I think he's a very attractive dog.

Ditto to Western Rider.

Bzcz -  failure to breed TO the Standard, for any breed, will always result in bits going "off";

with time, and consistency of ignoring the Standard, this will get worse - in some individual

dogs more than others - so whether an animal is "well bred" or not does matter.

Maybe your level of experience with GSDs has always been with that portion of the breed

which has been carefully bred to keep certain typical traits - maybe working ability ? - to

the fore, and most every dog you have laid hands or eyes on has had Pedigree papers,

official Registration, Koer report etc etc, and that is why you think dogs cannot be a 'pure'

bred if they have major faults ?

Real life isn't like that, honestly.  If some pet owner somewhere owns a pedigreed bitch who

is a little sub-standard for one reason or another (such that she would be excluded from a

Working Trials arena, or a Show Ring), and this owner nonetheless decides to take a litter

from her, enlisting the help of a neighbours equally pedigreed dog of the same breed,  where

anyt experienced breeder would reject the mating because e.g. it would obviously compound

faults (of size, colour, temperament &c), many of the pups produced will inevitably grow up as

'bad' or worse specimens of the breed;  none of them will  suddenly fit the Standard and be correct

in every regard.  If the process is compounded in later generations, the further from the Standard

the offspring will become.  They really do not need the introduction of some other breed.

This is where you get the origins of the Back Yard Bred description.  As far as I can tell from

things posted on this site the US has proprtionately just as much of a BYB problem as the UK;

over my lifetime in dogs here in England I can safely say I have seen thousands of examples of

GSDs - real  GSDs, often papered GSDs - that have been bred as strictly pets / for their unusual

structure / size / colour / for deliberate extreme aggression ... none of which are required by any of the

Breed Standards we have in use around the world.  Or not bred FOR any features at all.  Which can have

just as bad results as when it is deliberate.  Yes there are also breed mixes created, through the non-policy

of letting matings just happen;  but there are plenty that do not involve any other breed anywhere.

The Breed Standard is not a machine template.

What age was he when you had him neutered ? I have seen pure bred gsd males that were pediatric neutered develop very long legs which made them out of proportion. This doglooks like a washed out pure bred gsd. A malamute/gsd would have a very thick coat with a longer brush on the tail.I've never seen a mal cross so slick haired.....plus the hind legs would not have so much angulation if it was mal and the tail of a malx would not hang down typically it would curl over the back. There is nothing about that dog which suggests mal parentage, first, second or third.

Oh geez, going to have to get pics of my old dog Tundra posted.  Gsd X Mal(amute) cross.

Seen a lot of them over the years. 

Love when people make assumptions.  It takes several generations (which in a dog is 2 years per roughly) to lose the breed type assuming you started with it in the first place.

Of Course over several generations it is more likely than not that all these backyard breeders are only going to breed to other GSDs and there would NEVER be an outcross to a diff breed.

to joanro, you are again talking about something you know nothing about (and I'm NOT surprised).

 

In continuation to my above post....

Due to his size, keeping him on the thinner side (seeing 2 ribs) will be better for him.  As others have noted, just looking at the scale weight of a dog is not the most accurate way of determining health.  Talk with your vet; they should be able to show you pictures on what to look for as a good weight for your animal (dogs and cats alike). It is more of a visual thing than what you see on a scale.  If you cannot access a vet, there are a number of internet sites that show pictures on what you should look for.

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I forgot to add......  Welcome.  Many posters on this site are in the working dog or showing field.  All mean well and their #1 focus is the dog.  Keep posting and ask all the questions you want.

 

Also, why would a malamute cross have "a lighter eye" ? Plus, a mal x would certainly Not exaggerate the length of leg...if anything it would increase bone diameter as well as the barrel of the dog.

Several "2 year" generations to lose Breed Type is a decade or so.  Unless you are a very

young person still, bzcz, you will know that a decade is nothing !  And as you say, the dog

and bitch at the start of the inappropriate mating chain have to have HAD Breed Type to begin

with.  Breed Type isn't immutable either;  or how would some dogs score higher on that one

point than other dogs, within the Koerung / Survey process ?

Having owned and bred malamutes since 1969, I can tell you with certainty this dog shares no characteristics of a malamute x GSD cross. Joanro is correct.  I wouldn't want to say that, if he's not purebred, there couldn't be some malamute in his pedigree, but if the thinking is that malamute genes would contribute to his size, that is flawed. Malamutes are also considered medium sized dogs - 25", 85 lbs and 23" 75 lbs.

bzcz you are making an ass of the yourself again....do you always make personal attacks on people when their experience does not coincide with yours?
Can you stop with your usual personal attacks and answer the question; Why do you think a mal x would have a lighter eye ?
Also, why ( other than your pentiant for arguing for the sake of arguing ) do you Assume I am speaking about something I "know nothing about", especially since you know absolutely nothing about me?

@bz, "Love when people make assumptions." ...obviously you do, you make them all the time!