Not sure if my dog is a GSD like I was told - Page 7

OGBS calm down for Pete's sake. It is just a discussion about dogs. No need to be agressive. Was I agressive towards you? 

The history of the Malamute is on the Alaskan Malamute Club of America's website; anoyone interested can read it. It's one of the oldest arctic breeds known to man and the only natural breed native to the continent of North America. It is not a man made breed. Malamutes went with Byrd on both of his expeditions to the south pole.I would not presume to know more about this breed than bzcz, so he can answer all your questions should you have any.

Joan  thanks, 

you were right if you talk about "breed" as you have.  

 "group of animals or plants presumably related by descent from common ancestors and visibly similar in most characters;"

 

Where BZCZ assumed "pure breed" which it was never mentioned. 

"a purebred animal, especially one of registered pedigree."

 

This is link to a website owned by a friend. It sums up the Alaskan Malamute.

http://www.snowlion.org/origins.html

 

Hans,

I'm very calm. Who is Pete?

Read the link that Blitzen put up.  Very good link.

Bottom line is the breed is not hundreds of years old.  It was created from a "stock" of dogs and they picked the representatives of what they wanted to create for a breed.  Took them almost 10 years to accomplish this standard. Wouldn't have taken this long if they already existed.  Then in the 50's brought in different dogs to change the breed, that's called opening up the breed book.  Again they wouldn't have done that if it already existed.  Not even going to get into the giant lines and all that because that's a minority or a strain of the breed much like a shiloh or a king shepherd. 

Course those who don't want to admit they put their foot in their mouth will deny all this.  Change the definition of breed etc etc etc.  Have at it. When you talk of what you know nothing about, I'm sure you get used to foot in mouth disease.

Blitzen,

Which is it?  Man made or not?  You put up the link.

10 years to get the breeding pool uniform enough to create a standard?

That would even fall under Joanro's definition of "visibly similar in characteristics."

If they already were at this level of unifomity than why 10 years for the breed standard and changing it in the 50's with a new strain of dogs?

How can bringing in new dogs that are of a different type to help change the current type not be considered man made?

The gold rush started in 1896.  After the gold rush and the "mongrelisation" of all artic breeds, this led to the creation of the three northern strains.  Malamute being one.  "Careful selection by dedicated Malamute fanciers restored the correct original type and most of today's AKC Alaskan Malamutes are excellent representative of the true native sled dog of the North."

So how not man made?

and by the way the Alaskan Malamute club website says that, "The Alaskan Malamute, one of the oldest Arctic sled dogs,..."  Not oldest arctic breed know to man.  Significant difference I think. 

All honest questions.

"visably similar in characteristics", I didn't put that up, so get your quotes right .....plus you quoted Hans' post inaccurately.
Why did it take ten years in the 50's.....? If you read ALL the material you'd know the answer to that, instead of picking and choosing and taking things out of context to suit your arguing.
So how many gsd x mal have you raised, trained to work in a team? I bet none...in fact, you sound like you've never done anything but troll the forums for someone to argue with. I'm done with reading your junk.

Obfuscation and attacks.  Last resort when you can't discuss. Familiar pattern resulting from foot in mouth disease.

Honest discussion shouldn't be that hard. But when all you want to do is prove your superiority you expose your true self.

LOL!!!