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by Mithuna on 03 August 2016 - 17:08
Thanks to everyone with all the advice so far.
by Mithuna on 05 August 2016 - 14:08
Here is my plan A and plan B.
Plan A:
1. have caretaker not feed dog for 24-36 hrs
2. 100 mg ace promezine added to food and dog fed ( Vet say dosage is safe for 100 lb dog )
3. after 2 hours, enter via key and carrying a lasso / leash and crate.
4. Lasso presumably now calm dog and guide into crate and lock.
Plan B
call Hexe
Plan A:
1. have caretaker not feed dog for 24-36 hrs
2. 100 mg ace promezine added to food and dog fed ( Vet say dosage is safe for 100 lb dog )
3. after 2 hours, enter via key and carrying a lasso / leash and crate.
4. Lasso presumably now calm dog and guide into crate and lock.
Plan B
call Hexe
by BlackthornGSD on 05 August 2016 - 14:08
You say he's a working dog -- how much training does he have? Will he bite a sleeve and hold it?
The problem with Ace is you don't know how it's going to affect a dog -- usually it's a sedative, but it can have the opposite effect. I understand it also makes dogs extremely noise sensitive.
Christine
The problem with Ace is you don't know how it's going to affect a dog -- usually it's a sedative, but it can have the opposite effect. I understand it also makes dogs extremely noise sensitive.
Christine
by BlackMalinois on 05 August 2016 - 18:08
Call me I,m dutch and speak his language
Come on is this post serious I can,t believe this it what kind of dog people are
here anyway................
by hexe on 05 August 2016 - 18:08
Christine, that's why I'm not on board with using acepromazine for this. I will be surprised if the dog doesn't fight the effects and become frantic instead of sedated.
Mithuna, when are you planning on embarking on this venture? I am willing to make the trip over to NJ if you're unable to find anyone else who knows what they're doing and can help you; being 3 to 4 hours away, depending on where it is in Northern NJ, is the sole reason I'm offering to be only a 'last resort' plan, since I'll need to arrange for someone to care for my dogs if I'm going to have 6 to 8 hours of travel plus whatever time the project would take.
Mithuna, when are you planning on embarking on this venture? I am willing to make the trip over to NJ if you're unable to find anyone else who knows what they're doing and can help you; being 3 to 4 hours away, depending on where it is in Northern NJ, is the sole reason I'm offering to be only a 'last resort' plan, since I'll need to arrange for someone to care for my dogs if I'm going to have 6 to 8 hours of travel plus whatever time the project would take.
by Mithuna on 05 August 2016 - 18:08
Im not sure if the dog has training. But how would biting the sleeve help?
by susie on 05 August 2016 - 18:08
Is there absolutely no one else besides the owner, who is used to the dog? Family? Neighbours?
Any routine/commands he is used to?
Some vets do have tranquilizer guns, in case really nobody in your surrounding ( dog club ) does have the guts to help this dog, and you don´t trust AC, this is the last option.
No dog deserves to be locked in a house for days - you need to act now...
Any routine/commands he is used to?
Some vets do have tranquilizer guns, in case really nobody in your surrounding ( dog club ) does have the guts to help this dog, and you don´t trust AC, this is the last option.
No dog deserves to be locked in a house for days - you need to act now...
by Jenni78 on 05 August 2016 - 19:08
It's a dog, not a lion.
Grow a pair and get him out of there. If I weren't in Chicago and having a 75th birthday party for my dad this weekend, I'd do it myself. Call an experienced handler who won't walk in there with adrenaline on high and you'll be a lot better off.
Nix the Ace. I've seen that go bad and it's ugly. Why not use the front door with 2 people or 3 if he's *that* bad, and simply leash and collar him? He's ready to come out, I guarantee it, if he's been locked in there for days. Without the owner present, unless the dog is highly unusual and a total monster, I'm sure he can be secured without much, if any, blood. ;)
Grow a pair and get him out of there. If I weren't in Chicago and having a 75th birthday party for my dad this weekend, I'd do it myself. Call an experienced handler who won't walk in there with adrenaline on high and you'll be a lot better off.
Nix the Ace. I've seen that go bad and it's ugly. Why not use the front door with 2 people or 3 if he's *that* bad, and simply leash and collar him? He's ready to come out, I guarantee it, if he's been locked in there for days. Without the owner present, unless the dog is highly unusual and a total monster, I'm sure he can be secured without much, if any, blood. ;)
by hexe on 05 August 2016 - 19:08
Mithuna, knowing if the dog was familiar with a sleeve would help because when going into a situation where one knows the dog is likely to bite, one really should have something other than one's limbs to serve as the target--a bite stick, a bite sleeve, something that won't bleed.
If the dog is familiar with a sleeve, having one would not only provide that thing that won't bleed, but may also reduce the dog's stress and conflict by presenting him with something familiar that's associated with a controlled, structured activity, and that could make him downright biddable and responsive to commands. Or not. But if not, at least you can use the sleeve to preserve your body parts.
If the dog is familiar with a sleeve, having one would not only provide that thing that won't bleed, but may also reduce the dog's stress and conflict by presenting him with something familiar that's associated with a controlled, structured activity, and that could make him downright biddable and responsive to commands. Or not. But if not, at least you can use the sleeve to preserve your body parts.
by Jenni78 on 05 August 2016 - 20:08
I agree the sleeve is a good idea.
Mithuna, if the owner were there and incapacitated, the dog would be more likely to be excessively dangerous than by itself, especially after being locked in there for several days.
Mithuna, if the owner were there and incapacitated, the dog would be more likely to be excessively dangerous than by itself, especially after being locked in there for several days.
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