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Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 11 December 2016 - 20:12

Lol. Vk I didn't finish my post.

by beetree on 12 December 2016 - 01:12

Questioning is now a gender? What is the "I" gender supposed to be? Indeterminate? I guess the " A" is for asexual. Who the heck cares! Ever hear of keeping some things as private matters? It is pure rationalization, all the added labels, I am just not that interested in the sex dilemmas endlessly being pondered by all the confused people. I have no desire to start using such contrived language identifiers and will stick with a general, Hey You! For everyone.

Yes, I think the growing list is ridiculous. It probably won't end there,

And NIY, I barely skimmed your post and will likely ignore any new ones, so don't bother addressing them with my name. I won't be entertaining any sort of defensive response to your provocations, they are only time wasting lies about me.

@Chaz, You must not mention back rubs by me! I wouldn't want any of your harem members getting jealous!


Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 12 December 2016 - 14:12

Beetree, the "I" is for intersexed, those individuals who used to be called hermaphrodites and had their sex determined for them by physicians at birth, usually female because it was easier to lop off the testicles and penis.  Sex is determined in the womb during the second trimester when birth defects occur most often.  The SRY portion of the Y chromosome signals the embryo to start the masculinization process.  It is a process not an on/off switch.  It begins the process of turning a female embroy into male, including physical characteristics, identity of self, and attraction to others since attraction is nothing more than pheromones and neurotransmitters.  Whether straight or LGBTQI, it is determined in the genes in utero.  There is no "choice" in the matter and it is a fact of science. As for who cares, it is usually the ones being discriminated against or dismissed.  I have friends in the LGBTQI community and their struggle is real. 


by beetree on 12 December 2016 - 14:12

Mindhunt, Thanks for that information. I think true acceptance is included in "Hey, You!" 

What do you make of this: Interestingly enough, I saw this study about eyemovement differences observed between the sexes, namely the original male and female benchmark of sex deterlmination. I think it would be very interesting to test some of the more confused individuals and see how this test labels them. Differences then, between the two sexes becomes measurable, and not just the physical obvious ones which when mismatched, causes issues, and also, there should/could be others. The attraction quotient would have to be a different aspect altogether. I think there is debate on that one, still.

 

...that differences in exploratory eye movements between men and women may reflect differences in the characteristics of visual information processing and also confirmed the reproducibility of exploratory eye movement parameters. 

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1046/j.1440-1819.2000.00632.x/asset/j.1440-1819.2000.00632.x.pdf;jsessionid=3FC790CB9A1204E07439DD9782E4D7A4.f01t02?v=1&t=iwm6v8cu&s=ac40b0236d70e6d8d7a206fa40e5240dc6a64898


Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 12 December 2016 - 15:12

Beetree, there are no confused ones, they are usually bisexual or pan-sexual.  They know what they are, it is usually straight people that don't understand and label them "confused" lol.  Also the days of binary sexuality was over in the 70's when the binary used to be thought of as weak, submissive, nurturing, incapable, emotional, childlike women and strong, masculine, aggressive, emotionally distant, capable, logical, adult manly men......now it is a continuum of sexuality or sexes with science finding men with varying levels of "female" neurotransmitters and hormones, and women with varying degrees of "male" neurotransmitters and hormones.  Same thing with attraction.  There are no hard and fast rules anymore other than: adult, consensual, and respectful.  Pedophilia is not on the spectrum and is a disorder with the adult perpetrator more interested in destroying innocence and having a very uneven power dynamic than anything else (NOT aimed at you, rather aimed at those hateful individuals throw pedophilia into the mix of LGBTQI just to be ugly).


by beetree on 12 December 2016 - 15:12

If they "know" then what is the "Q" all about? Apparently the science is pointing to genes and environmental factors or epigenetics that affect attraction, while the biology of sexual orientation is found in the genes.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/06/11/the_science_of_sexual_orientation_the_latest_on_genes_chromosomes_and_environmental.html

The rules of attraction: adult, consensual and respectful would seem to be based on societal laws and morals, and therefore, subject to change. For instance, what about the Furry people? Might they seek social and legal acceptance, too, for being different? Don't laugh too loud, even if I can't help it! 

http://guff.com/is-being-a-furry-considered-a-sexual-orientation


Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 12 December 2016 - 16:12

Beetree, "Q" is used for questioning, usually by the young who are exploring their identity and sexuality.  PFLAG (nationally recognized resource and support for LGBTQI individuals, family, and allies) defines it as - Questioning: A term used to describe those who are in a process of discovery and exploration about their sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, or a combination thereof.

As for epigenitics hypothesis, some scientists believe that the chemicals and toxins in the environment impact the gene expression to some degree such as frogs (who usually are the harbinger of environmental effects of toxins) having more female frogs, infants have been found to have high levels of estrogen in their systems at birth from the birth control pills that are in a woman's urine that is not processed out of the water system that we all drink from (for that matter neither are other medications).  The gene expression is still exactly that, dependent on the Y chromosome and SRY portion to be exact.  Keep in mind, Uganda (where the study was done) is very anti-gay and was looking for a way that was palatable to the government for explaining LGBT individuals.


by beetree on 12 December 2016 - 17:12

Actually, I believe epigenetics and the environment goes beyond chemical toxins. "Questioning" still, stands at odds of "knowing" from the time of the womb.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 12 December 2016 - 17:12

Mindhunt, you have the patience of a saint.

Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 12 December 2016 - 19:12

Beetree, questioning is exactly that, wondering where they are on the spectrum, whether to "pass" or come out, how to tell loved ones, etc.  It is a confusing time for youth with some of society, or their own families telling them they are going to hell and not deserving of human rights because they do not fit the cisgender idea of being either male or female and all the societal norms and such that go with that gender.  I have had adolescent clients who came out to their parents only to be told they are "the devil" or "needing to be cleansed", or some other such nonsense or in the cases of a few, kicked out of their homes and banned from the family.  No wonder with the cost of coming out, family expectations, societal expectations, and the violence they face, some are questioning whether they want to come out or try to hide what they are and try to "pass" as a proper cisgender. 

Hundmutter, if I can help educate then yes, I have the patience needed, ok, on some days lol.....






 


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