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by Blitzen on 09 July 2012 - 23:07
If it were my dog, it would matter to me, Zdog.
by zdog on 10 July 2012 - 01:07
it might matter to you, but beyond that, what's going to happen? Get all upset that your famous dog stands funny and has an unflattering picture of it?
by Blitzen on 10 July 2012 - 02:07
If you don't understand why it would be a concern to me, then it's no use I try to explain it to you.
by GSD Admin on 10 July 2012 - 02:07
I think what matters to me is a person starts this thread to trash a dog that is out there doing shows but what training does the OP do with their dogs? Schutzhund,
obedience, SAR, conformation or anything? I doubt it but hey lets trash a dog because it is not the type liked by the OP but God forbid saying anything bad about WL or the type they like.
Ms. Manners please?
I should listen to my admins, shame on me.
obedience, SAR, conformation or anything? I doubt it but hey lets trash a dog because it is not the type liked by the OP but God forbid saying anything bad about WL or the type they like.
Ms. Manners please?
I should listen to my admins, shame on me.
by zdog on 10 July 2012 - 02:07
it's funny how people can rationalize anything, and play the victim so easily.
Say bad stuff about a workingline dog, see if I care. If it has merit, i'll probably be right here with you. If he stands like that dog, i'll certainly be there with you. What I won't be doing, is rationalizing ways to say this crap is OK
Say bad stuff about a workingline dog, see if I care. If it has merit, i'll probably be right here with you. If he stands like that dog, i'll certainly be there with you. What I won't be doing, is rationalizing ways to say this crap is OK
by GSD Admin on 10 July 2012 - 02:07
I didn't say it was okay but these types of threads are exactly why we have different forums and the different types will never be able to come together for the betterment of the breed. NEVER.
I should have just listened to the other admins.
So, carry on and put half the forum on the defensive and half on the offensive and see where we are 2 years from now. In the meantime I would rather smash my head against a brick wall.
Goodnight zdog.
I should have just listened to the other admins.
So, carry on and put half the forum on the defensive and half on the offensive and see where we are 2 years from now. In the meantime I would rather smash my head against a brick wall.
Goodnight zdog.
by FerrumGSDs on 10 July 2012 - 07:07
I think the images are purposely meant to make the dog look bad. Face looking away... the nose to one end and the tail to another as if the dog just changed direction in the hock shot. No he does not stand that way, the side shot shows he stands normal behind.
I preffer threads that are more fair and level headed. Why not share the best images of your favorite dogs.
I preffer threads that are more fair and level headed. Why not share the best images of your favorite dogs.
by zdog on 10 July 2012 - 12:07
well i've been here for 6 and nothing is changed I'm guessing 2 more isn't going to make a difference, I can't say I partake too often, but occasionally I find it funny when people try to make excuses for this stuff and comment on it.
by vonissk on 10 July 2012 - 12:07
Thank you German Shepherd Dog. That's exactly how I feel. One thing I get truly tired of on this board is the posting pics and bashing people. And Ferum you're exactly right and that is just a damn shame. And if you read one of the OP's post it makes them ashamed to see the breed like this. As I said then why go to shows if it makes you so sick and ashamed. Stick with what you like. And GSd you are right, I want to see all this OP's accomplishments too.
Myself I don't like coats, so maybe I should put up a thread on coats and steal pics from here on there so all us anti coat people can bash them.
Last year at the Nationals, there was a guy sitting outside with an ugly black dog. All I can say is this dog had a pretty head. Someone I knew came up and commented on the dog and I defended the dog and owner as in the dog had passed his herding test and his TT. In other words if you open your mind there is something good in every dog. Sure it might not be breeding quality but not every Ch and every ScH titled dog is.
And let me add this about my own dog--he is pure WL and DDR and has a pedigree to equal any AND he does stand stand cow hocked once in a while, like every other GSD. But he's not and the movement tells all. And I would be very angry if someone took a pic in one of those cow hocked looking stances and put it up here to bash. Why? Because it's MY dog and tho he's not a breeding quality dog, he has other qualities and if I can live with that it's really noone else's biz. And I KNOW his faults and what makes him not breeding quality and being cow hocked is not one of them.
The standard is there as a blueprint and everyone interprets it different which is why there are different types in our breed. Kind of like politics, it is interpreted different hence we have different parties and people arguing about what is right.
Hans said mixing the lines was not for the faint of heart. Not only that breeding period isn't for the faint of heart. And if you are breeding and you're not producing what you think is bettering the breed then why do it?
I know I wasn't going to say anything else but I can only stand so much bashing regardless of what the lines./type are. Again my goal is the future of the breed, not money or fame or any of the junk I have been accused of.
I hope everybody has a great day.
Myself I don't like coats, so maybe I should put up a thread on coats and steal pics from here on there so all us anti coat people can bash them.
Last year at the Nationals, there was a guy sitting outside with an ugly black dog. All I can say is this dog had a pretty head. Someone I knew came up and commented on the dog and I defended the dog and owner as in the dog had passed his herding test and his TT. In other words if you open your mind there is something good in every dog. Sure it might not be breeding quality but not every Ch and every ScH titled dog is.
And let me add this about my own dog--he is pure WL and DDR and has a pedigree to equal any AND he does stand stand cow hocked once in a while, like every other GSD. But he's not and the movement tells all. And I would be very angry if someone took a pic in one of those cow hocked looking stances and put it up here to bash. Why? Because it's MY dog and tho he's not a breeding quality dog, he has other qualities and if I can live with that it's really noone else's biz. And I KNOW his faults and what makes him not breeding quality and being cow hocked is not one of them.
The standard is there as a blueprint and everyone interprets it different which is why there are different types in our breed. Kind of like politics, it is interpreted different hence we have different parties and people arguing about what is right.
Hans said mixing the lines was not for the faint of heart. Not only that breeding period isn't for the faint of heart. And if you are breeding and you're not producing what you think is bettering the breed then why do it?
I know I wasn't going to say anything else but I can only stand so much bashing regardless of what the lines./type are. Again my goal is the future of the breed, not money or fame or any of the junk I have been accused of.
I hope everybody has a great day.
by vonissk on 10 July 2012 - 12:07
Zdog I've been here a year longer than you and I've seen everything on this board.
Regarding your comment, noone is making excuses for anything. They are being open minded enough to see what is right with the dog not what is wrong with pics that I agree and believe were taken to make the dog look bad.
And what is it really about? Bash the American lines as much as you can. Get them on here and drag them through the mud. Absolutely do not look at any titles behind their names, do not look at any hip/elbow and anything else OFA ratings. And God Forbid anyone should open their closed minds and see anything good they have brought to the table.
And before I get to be the b.......h of the day, I will also say I am not specifically an AM sl person. I have pure lines of a little of everything and mixed lines of a little of everything and I believe it is not so much the lines as it is what each individual dog can bring to the table and add to the breeding program.
Regarding your comment, noone is making excuses for anything. They are being open minded enough to see what is right with the dog not what is wrong with pics that I agree and believe were taken to make the dog look bad.
And what is it really about? Bash the American lines as much as you can. Get them on here and drag them through the mud. Absolutely do not look at any titles behind their names, do not look at any hip/elbow and anything else OFA ratings. And God Forbid anyone should open their closed minds and see anything good they have brought to the table.
And before I get to be the b.......h of the day, I will also say I am not specifically an AM sl person. I have pure lines of a little of everything and mixed lines of a little of everything and I believe it is not so much the lines as it is what each individual dog can bring to the table and add to the breeding program.
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