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by kimi on 01 May 2010 - 20:05



  Hi All,
          Is Scotland still promoting loose hocks,??????????


muldoon

by muldoon on 01 May 2010 - 21:05

Is this a rhetorical question? If not, could you provide some context and information to support your question?

by bazza on 02 May 2010 - 07:05

IGNORANT FOOL!!!

by kimi on 02 May 2010 - 08:05


    THE JUDGE WAS UNREAL,ALL FRIENDS UP FIRST,(SOUND OR UNSOUND)THE STEWARD HAD CATALOGUE IN RING ,,LOOKING AT IT THEN SPEAKING TO THE JUDGE,AT THE START OF EVERY CLASS,IF YOU WHERE THERE YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICED IT,COME ON,WE ARE TRYING TO STOP ALL THIS SHIT,,IT WAS JUST A SMALL OPEN SHOW,I FEEL SORRY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID THER MONEY TO LET THIS HAPPEN,NEED TO STAND UP AND GET IT STOP.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DAM DISGRACE,


by smc on 02 May 2010 - 10:05

DID NO ONE COMPLAIN TO THE CLUB? I MISSED THIS SHOW BUT I DID HEAR ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON A CLUB CANNOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL A COMPLAINT IS MADE  AND YES  THIS MUST BE MADE TO STOP AS THIS IS JUST GIVING THE KC FUEL FOR THEIR FIRE

by kimi on 02 May 2010 - 10:05


HI SMC,WHAT CAN BE DONE IF YOU COMPLAIN,NAUGHT..THEY ARE CHEATS.AND YES THEY WILL USE SOME SHOW TO GET THEIR OWN WAY,,THATS WHY THEY WILL LOSE ENTRIES,AND THEN THE SMALL CLUBS WILL BE NO MORE,SHAME,,THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!!.IF I HAD A DOG IN THE SHOW AT THE WEEKEND I WOULD HAVE ASK FOR MY MONEY BACK,AND I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THEM AGAIN,,AND YES THEY ARE ALL AT IT,IT MAKES ME SICK TO WATCH IT,ANY NEW COMER WATCHING IT WOULD THINK THATS HOW IT DONE,,AND THEM YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WILL NOT GO AWAY,,RIGHT OR WRONG..!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by smc on 02 May 2010 - 13:05

I DO KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS ENTRIES ARE FALLING THEREFORE  PERHAPS IF THE SMALL CLUBS WISH TO REMAIN SOLVENT THEY MUST REVUE THE JUDJING LISTS AND REMOVE ANYONE WHO WILL NOT JUDGE HONESTLY  ONE SOLUTION MIGHT BE  THAT IF A JUDGE HAS ENOUGH COMPLAINS LODGED AGAINS HIM OR HER BY EXHIBITORS AND  IT COULD BE PROVEN THAT ANYTHING WAS AMISS THEN THEY COULD BE FINED AND ANY EXPENSES THAT THEY HAD CHARGED TO THE HOST CLUB BE RETURNED.MAYBE THEN WHEN MONEY IS AT STAKE THEY WILL THINK TWICE ABOUT DOING IT  BUT THEN PIGS MIGHT FLY


by bazza on 02 May 2010 - 14:05

A complaint should have been made at the time, how else can anything be done? No use complaining on a dog forum after the event, if you feel so strongly you should have made an official complaint there and then. I can understand your anger and frustration, but you are the one who said above to stand up and get it stopped, Then do it!!!  Not a lot anyone here who were not present and after the event can do really. If I had been there you can bet your bottom dollar there would have been at least 1 OFFICIAL COMPLAINT if what you say is fact, for sure!!!

by Heather on 02 May 2010 - 16:05

Sheena,

I was at this show, so think i am entitled to an opinion on it.  I for one think the judge did a fair and reasonable job on the day.  I did not agree with everything he did but then again that is dog showing for you!  The heading of this thread is about promoting loose hocks.  I can honestly say apart from a few baby puppies with slightly loose hocks, my own included (only just 6 months), i did not see any of his winners above a year old with loose hocks.  If i am wrong  Kimi then please tell me which ones, as i must have missed them. 

Yes, you may think me biased as my baby puppy Xara won but i am sure that anyone who knows Xara or has seen her can vouch for her quality and anatomical virtues.  Also our youngster Waro winning Best in Show  again!! speaks for itself.

As for the steward having a catalogue in the ring, yes  they should have as they have to ensure the correct dogs are in the correct classes.  I most certainly did not get the impression that any conversation between himself and the judge was anything untoward at all. 

I suppose people will see what they want to see when they are not happy at their animals being beaten and there will always be bad losers but  thought i would throw in my tuppence worth to put a more balanced perspective on events as i saw them.  As we all know there is always two sides to every story......

Kimi, what you have tried to do is slurry every persons animal that won yesterday at that show by your malicious comments.  As far as i am aware Mike Ruston is not particularly friendly with any person in Scotland or has any connections with any kennel, so get over yourself and open your eyes to the dogs in the ring.  I would be interested to know which results you disagreed with and why.  That would at least allow us all to measure whether or not your opinion is one of worth.


Thanks

by bazza on 02 May 2010 - 16:05

Yes, The title of the thread is not really appropriate as you seem to be saying a lot more than just loose hocks being promoted. If this is just another case of bad loser syndrome then shame on you. But if you have genuine concerns I suggest you go through the proper channels instead of bringing it to a chat forum to gossip and bad mouth people and their dogs. Facts not heresay are needed, and not just your opinion  end of!!!
Heather, well done yesterday, looks like you had a very good day!!!






 


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