Civil vs Prey drive Video Examples Post some and let's talk about them - Page 1

I posted in the the other thread, but realized that we should start a new one-

OK, not the absolute best example, but the body language here says a lot- check out the second video of this dog.
There is a small bit where the helper doesn't even have the sleeve, and pay attention to the wagging tail and perky ears. She looks very happy and outgoing, but doesn't appear to be the sleeve monster type........

http://www.eurosportk9.com/forsale/r/ramella/ramella.asp

I need to find some of my dog, he only has eyes for the sleeve....

Lets see some others! 

Theresa

To me she does look sleeve happy. Look at her in the blind, not looking at the helper but at his arm. She didn't look civil at all without the sleeve, all show and no real go. I'd like to see a dog get more jacked up with no sleeve or suit and look like it is really trying for a piece of the decoy. This dog was NOT. She is playing putting on a bluff.

that dog is having a blast! she playing a game and has total confidence...........the helper is her friend.

this is what the dogs at our club look like when they are working, great shutzhund sport dog.

if her training takes her into a professional career, like police work then she will be trained to go farther.......

love those eurosport dogs, they are great!

OK, how about this one-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDcbHUX66QQ&feature=email

Theresa

Looks like Dave Blank and Steve House working some of their dogs.
They know how to train and they understand the part about putting some defense in a dog.
The training that you see with the helper backed up in to the trees is an excellent way to add a little environmental aggression to the dog. The dog is taking it seriously, but, I wouldn't say that it is in civil mode. I think that the dog is going in and out of prey and defense. Defense certainly in the trees.

OGBS, Yes Steve knows dogs for sure.:-) He is our training director for our group here in N.VA. That is Dave's dog in the video. He is doing a super job! Theresa

Here is a  video of a really super dog working in prey and defense.  Notice this dog is "civil" or has a lot of defense drive.  Watch how the heper never slips the sleeve until the handler has a leash on this dog.   Watch the dog after the seve is slipped; the dog immediately spits out the sleeve to engage the decoy.  this dog is only bititng th esleeve because it is there, it would surely bite the decoy without any equipment for real.  

Sitasmom, this dog would make an excellent SchH dog, notice the full hard grips.   A dog you could really compete with.  You should watch this video to get a better idea of drives for SchH work.  Please note, this dog is not even pushed into defense by the decoy, it brings it to the decoy.  I really like this dog, excellent working line pedigree as well.

FWIW,

Jim

Here is the pedigree for Darka Va-Pe, the female n the video above. 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/439330.html

Jim