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by nicole1412 on 31 August 2010 - 07:08

 Hi,

I am a little concerned about my 12 week old male pup. He is happy enough, tail wagging, coming when called, eating etc but he shows absolutely no interest in playing with a ball, stuffed toy etc. My husband was hoping to try schutzhund with him but I wonder if it is too early or if he will ever develop the drive to do it. My 12 month old female has a low prey drive also but she responds well to obedience training. 

My male puppy could pass as a sloth. He doesnt run or play unless it is with our female. Should he be playing/biting by this age? 

Thanks
Nicole

hamza166

by hamza166 on 31 August 2010 - 09:08

I cannto actually say anything but here is a video of a 12 week old puppy biting etc:



melba

by melba on 31 August 2010 - 12:08

You should be seperating the two dogs. Do not give him the option of only playing with your other dog, he should want to play with you. Dogs will bond closely with each other and leave you out of the picture.

Then again, some dogs develop differently or he may just have low drives.

Could you post a pedigree?

Melissa

TingiesandTails

by TingiesandTails on 31 August 2010 - 15:08

Usually pups at 12 weeks have a drive to go after something  - my female had a great drive for rags and tugs at 8 weeks. Experienced Schutzhund people select those pups with a good drive. However I previously had a dog that was from a long pedigree of SchH3 ancestors, that had a great drive when she was a pup but turned out to be a great show dog/couch potatoe/therapy dog as she was not interested in going after anything/anyone after about 6 months of age. We bought her at 8 months of age because we wanted a gentle family dog at that time.
Pedigree doesn't determine your dog's drive - it's a dog's personality, eg. excitement and ability to learn and focus as well as the trainers ability to motivate and challenge.
I agree, it would be good to work with your pup seperately without your other dog and try different motivational toys like tugs, rags, thick ropes and see what works.
Good luck!


Doberdoodle

by Doberdoodle on 31 August 2010 - 15:08

What did the breeder say?  Different lines will behave differently as puppies.  Just because a GSD puppy isn't hanging in the air onto a scrap at 12 weeks or going crazy over a tug doesn't mean they won't excell at SchH someday! Not every dog is going to be like the one in the video, it's a nice pup, I think they're doing too a little much pulling on the pup and not enough winning.  You don't need to have a young puppy biting a full tug, does your puppy chase a tennis ball?  Make a flirt pole, I used this toy http://www.allk-9.com/the-robit-toy-p-36.html

melba

by melba on 31 August 2010 - 15:08

Pedigree does matter. If the puppy is from serious high drive dogs known to produce same, maybe the puppy is sick? If the puppy is from backyard bred dogs through generations of backyard bred dogs, I wouldn't really expect much in the way of drive.
Pedigree may not determine drive, but it may give clues as to the behavior.

If I were your trainer, I would tell you to seperate the dogs and make yourself the most fun part of your puppy's day.

Melissa


jc.carroll

by jc.carroll on 31 August 2010 - 15:08

Doberdodle's right.


I had a female who didn't turn on till she was over a year old. Up till that point absolutely NO interest in chasing a ball, NO interest in playing tug. She turned a year old; and it was like that part of her brain just kicked into gear. Now, if you saw her focus on a tug, ball, (or the sleeve,) you'd never guess she used to be completely disinterested in playing with me or toys when she was young.

What you have at 12 weeks still doesn't indicate what you'll have in a few months. Don't push your pup, just enjoy him. If he's not into playing, get outside and bond with him anyhow. Do some very light obedience. Take him on walks and outings. At the very least you'll have a very well socialized pet, and at the best, you'll have a dog who turns into a great Sch dog, and is completely unphased by different surroundings.

by Jeff Oehlsen on 31 August 2010 - 16:08

Did you buy from showlines ? Post a pedigree so I can see what you got. Show line dogs, dogs that "choose" when they want to play at 12 weeks are what we classify as shitters. 

Felloffher

by Felloffher on 31 August 2010 - 16:08

 A dogs pedigree only gives us an idea of what potential a pup may have. Regardless of pedigree, not every pup will be an excellent working prospect. Some are late bloomers and may wake up and suprise everyone, but I would expect a pup selected for bite work to have good prey drive and chase a rag. Personally, I would ask to exchange the pup for another in the litter or a pick from the next one. Waiting and hoping will end up in disapointment most of the time.


by Jeff Oehlsen on 31 August 2010 - 16:08

Did you buy from showlines ? Post a pedigree so I can see what you got. Show line dogs, dogs that "choose" when they want to play at 12 weeks are what we classify as shitters. Send it back if your husband want to do Sch, it is just going to make everything screwed up.

No drive for the ball blows chunks when you go to train it. Take it from me, it is a nightmare.





 


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