Working/sporting life Czech vs WG lines - Page 1

I keep on reading that  pure Czech lines mature much slower than WG lines. If this is a fact then is it not more advantageous for LE and sport people to go to the WG lines as the WG lines would therefore have more productive years in the field.  Of course if the Czech dogs have better health and more working years capability then things would even out. Anyone with a opinion on this. 
Thanks,
K.

oversimplified explanation;
prey dogs can be worked from 7 weeks of age, while you cannot adress defence at very young age

Thanks for taking the time to reply Duke. Maybe my question should have been "In general does it take longer to get a Czech (pure Czech) dog ready for specific task compared to dogs forr WG lines?"

I'm actually curious too.  I've had access to view a DDR male for over a year now and he was quite nervy in the begining, with no end to it in sight.  However, now that he is over two years old I am seeing much of the nerviness disappearing and things that once spooked him no longer do anymore.  In contrast to my current old west female, she was fearless long before age 2.

really depends on the dog , I have pure czech lines with great drives and willingness to work , and I have dogs with low preydrive, more defence, stubborn and dominant, It goes without saying that some are faster to train than others , also you have to shift trainingstyle IMO , for the second type I use more pressure/compulsion to make them do what I want, and then again with this you cannot start at same age as the high prey and fooddrive dogs,, but training is  allways about adjusting to the possabilities and limitations of the individual dog
very very very generally speaking west dogs are more prey, so more easily and earlyer trainable, but exeptions are to be found on both ends

reading it back I realize this really doesnot help much probably


 

regardless of the lines, Defense & Aggression take a while to surface themselves. Even if they do surface young, it is not a good idea to work on it until the dog has the mental maturity to handle those things. 

You can teach them through prey the in's and outs of things and like a karate instructor teach the fundamentals. Then when the dog is old enough to handle the pressure of those drives and has the nerve to keep them in the game, you start the real training. When you do start it make sure you don't go from nothing to all. It will set the dog up for failure. Take it slow and when the dog is good at one thing, build on it. 

It's a personal preference what people want. 
I know a WG male who took until he was about a year old to finally light up. He basically acted like a pet dog chewing on sticks and enjoying the cool shade and breeze while watching bitework. Now he is a real force to be reckoned with. 

Individual dogs will mature differently and will have different things working behind them. Like Duke said, it is important to recognize the individual dogs abilities, strengths and weaknesses, and adjust your training to fit that specific dog. 

Sorry for my immature question. What defines maturity in a dog.

guddu,

My interpretation is:


"The age at which the dog attains full development of both his physical and mental attributes including drives."  

Maybe someone else has a better and more accurate definition.

Cheers,