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by joanro on 13 January 2013 - 14:01
If the DNA test was for registry, those are markers for parentage, they do not indicate the breed.
by Aadilah07 on 15 January 2013 - 12:01
APBT - that is a first...some pic's will help...post them so we can see...
by Prager on 16 January 2013 - 16:01
Guddu: Can someone tell me is it possible that in the past we have had czechoslovak (CKSP) dogs registered without info about dam or sire ?.
Was it necessary to have dam and sire info for registration of dog in data base...if so how many generations back.
That was and is possible by FCI regulations in any country and in any breed. We are talking then about so called rejuvenation of the breed where in the breeding can be included dogs which are excellent and is there interest in these specific dogs. These dogs must be healthy at least 2x evaluated in a show by international judge and the evaluation must be at least very good. Then there may be specifics established by different breeds. like ED and HD evaluation, title, breed survey and so on.
This is not a simplistic formality. Such dogs are known and well followed in performance and in background. There is not a way that Wolf x GSD cross could be admitted into such program.
Was it necessary to have dam and sire info for registration of dog in data base...if so how many generations back.
That was and is possible by FCI regulations in any country and in any breed. We are talking then about so called rejuvenation of the breed where in the breeding can be included dogs which are excellent and is there interest in these specific dogs. These dogs must be healthy at least 2x evaluated in a show by international judge and the evaluation must be at least very good. Then there may be specifics established by different breeds. like ED and HD evaluation, title, breed survey and so on.
This is not a simplistic formality. Such dogs are known and well followed in performance and in background. There is not a way that Wolf x GSD cross could be admitted into such program.
Prager Hans
by guddu on 17 January 2013 - 01:01
Hans:
I was curious because I found some gaps in the Slovak data base for this pedigree for Bojar z PS. ..Do you know if this is due to incomplete data input, or that the info was not available.
http://www.suchno.sk/databaza/bojar-z-pohranicni-straze-8590.html
I was curious because I found some gaps in the Slovak data base for this pedigree for Bojar z PS. ..Do you know if this is due to incomplete data input, or that the info was not available.
http://www.suchno.sk/databaza/bojar-z-pohranicni-straze-8590.html
by guddu on 20 January 2013 - 03:01
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by Hukka on 20 January 2013 - 04:01
It is just incomplete data input. Merz is out of Sim and Nela z Ps and Asta is out of Nero vom Schäferstolz and Britta vom Hausmannsturm.
by guddu on 20 January 2013 - 04:01
Hukka:
Kiitos paljon, was curious about the source of your info, is there some database that I could also access from the USA ?
Kiitos paljon, was curious about the source of your info, is there some database that I could also access from the USA ?
by Hukka on 20 January 2013 - 04:01
Ei kestä! Well, that was easy.....Bojar happened to be grandsire to one of my past dogs so I had that official pedigree. Have copy of Asta's official pedigree. Also have the DDR NZB's/Körbuchen among other things that I can look up info. But then I think I had already told you my sources.
by gharsha on 20 January 2013 - 11:01
It just so happens that Bojar von Schotterhof happens to be one of my favorite GSDs in picture.
It also saddens me that reference to wolf blood in the GSD over the last 100 years is supported by yahoo answers.
The only wolf in modern GSDs, save for Czech wolfdogs and the like, amounts similarlily to the wolfiest of some other dog breeds like the akita, Siberian husky, and malimute.
It is impossible to believe that any breeder who claims an aderance to the ethics established by von Stephanitz would introduce such wild blood into thier program.
Greg Harsha
It also saddens me that reference to wolf blood in the GSD over the last 100 years is supported by yahoo answers.
The only wolf in modern GSDs, save for Czech wolfdogs and the like, amounts similarlily to the wolfiest of some other dog breeds like the akita, Siberian husky, and malimute.
It is impossible to believe that any breeder who claims an aderance to the ethics established by von Stephanitz would introduce such wild blood into thier program.
Greg Harsha
by guddu on 22 January 2013 - 00:01
http://www.floridalupine.org/publications/PDF/FWC_Pheno_Pamphlet_2011.pdf
Page 10 of the pdf has a quiz about phenotype of gsd-wolf mixes. As can be seen high content wolf is easy to recognise, moderate content wolf (not too easy), and low content (>F5) wolf could be quite hard....which is what I am discussing in this thread.
Interesting info in how to differentiate wolf from dog.
Test yourself on dog pictures, 1, 2, 13, 14. Are these pure GSD's ?
Page 10 of the pdf has a quiz about phenotype of gsd-wolf mixes. As can be seen high content wolf is easy to recognise, moderate content wolf (not too easy), and low content (>F5) wolf could be quite hard....which is what I am discussing in this thread.
Interesting info in how to differentiate wolf from dog.
Test yourself on dog pictures, 1, 2, 13, 14. Are these pure GSD's ?
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