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and anyone who raises and trains a dog for 3yrs and sells him/her after all that hard work.... well they're just sorry human beings....lmao.

prager you should immediately stop selling/importing anything over sayyyy. 12mo? can explain to me the difference between selling a dog that is not working out and one that is zvv1 andbreed surveyed? oh wait i know... $$$ lmao

Vomeisenhaus, your careful reading and recitation of what others have posted has never impressed me in either its accuracy or its insightfulness, so I usually don't even bother posting to you, but since you've brought my name into this, I feel I should point out that you're flat out wrong or missing my point or both. By my own standards, I would have Capri. I bought a breeding quality dog because I had a particular set of criteria I was looking for. Rather than spend 1/10 of the money on a puppy and hope for the best and then dump the dog when it doesn't work out, I bought a dog that had what I wanted, so that dog could stay for life, barring major circumstance change. Notice she is done breeding and where is she? Not sure...either my son's bed or mine, I'm guessing. She was not posted for sale when I bought her, either. There were special circumstances that made her available, and as I mentioned in my very first sentence, there will always be dogs available for one reason or another that are a better fit for one home than another. Having the mentality that they are like cars to be traded in every 18mos or 2 years, however, imho, is just wrong. 

Here is what I said to refresh your memory and clear up any misunderstanding: There are circumstances where it's best to sell or rehome a dog, however, "not working out as expected" is a sorry reason to do so, imo. I have raised young dogs and sold them or given them away to better homes than I could provide THAT PARTICULAR dog for some reason, but to BUY a PUPPY and raise it, have it bond to you, and then dump it when it doesn't "meet expectations" because YOU WERE TOO CHEAP TO BUY A DOG FOR YOUR PURPOSES IN THE FIRST PLACE, well, I just think that sucks. If you want to breed, buy a breeding quality dog. If you want to show, buy a show quality dog. If you want to bond with a puppy for life, buy a puppy and keep it for life.

We are "cradle to grave" family, too.  Our boy, Radar, turned out to have multiple problems . . cauda equina, hip dysplasia, ibd, etc., etc. . . and when his myriad problems started to manifest, at a very young age, his breeder offered to take him back.  But he was OUR dog, and just the most upbeat, happy boy you could imagine despite his many health issues.  We've heard from neighbors and "friends," many times, that we were out of our minds  for not trading him in for a "better dog."  Last May, I was home alone with Radar when the furnace caught fire . . I have no doubt that Radar's prompt, insistent warning saved my life.  There are lots of jobs that my boy will never be able to do . . but there will never be a "better dog" for this family!

thats all fine and well jenny.. i wasnt talking.about you as the buyer. i was talking about capris Seller... you know the one that raised trained and titled her

you see jenny... the way i read that is capris owner is a sorry person for ever selling you the dog after all the bonding/,training and all they accomished with her. what is the difference if i sell a dog that isnt working out for.me vs. selling a dog like capri? please enlighten me

you see jenny there can only be so many SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.... :)

im done here... carry on folks

So from the reading so far: Its bad form for private owners to sell the occasional adult dog (if the dog does not work out) they may own, but ok for  breeders to do so as a business model (particularly if the dog works out!).  I am sure I must be misunderstanding something ?. Sounds a bit like Grover Norqvist's tax pledge :-), ok if he approves it.

P.S. To clarify, I am only asking a question, not choosing sides in the argument.

Wow...it sounds like private owners and breeders must operate under different rules.....OCCASIONALLY.... i hear what is best for the dogs and breed that we so much love...but then if you back track on various posts it is all about business......so which is it? If you listen (read) carefully you can determine who is more about business then the true lovers of our breed.....