provide some examples of any endurance based animal (dog or not) that is shaped like a gsd. - Page 4

"those doing their best to produce a dog within the system that was created by the founders of the breed. "

what to be a working dog that can gather/move and protect the herd and the shepherd??????

how does breeding them to show "produce" this....in any system???

You made my point, markobytes.
I remember reading something, in The German Shepherd Dog, to the effect that the Cpt said the GSD should not be a show dog. That's all I have to say about that, as I'm not playIng that, 'you're dissing people', junk, cause that's not what this thread appears to be about.

"​cause that's not what this thread appears to be about."

hoorah, i am understood. dissing and pissing is not my game, learning all i can about the breed like a sponge is.

must add, i am not using the internet as my primary source of learning/knowledge, it is but one source, an entertaining one but only a mildly useful source at that.

post two up, meant to say flock not herd.

The photo above was just a way to bring up that the "pose" makes a huge difference.

If you look at the stacked showline and the showline that is standing naturally there is a HUGE difference!
Also if you look at a workingline stacked the way showlines are stacked they would look much more alike.

Notice the hind legs of a typical showline stack, the far leg is very much compressed, hock almost flat to the ground and joints bent, this causes the back to bend and the hips to look lower to the ground.

With a typical workingline stack the far hind leg is in an almost normal position which give the dog a much different appearance. Pose a working line the same way the showlines are and you will see a much different picture.

Yes there are a few butt dragging showlines, but most are not, they are not considered correct.






 

Max wrote against the dog being solely raised to show and being raised in a kennel, He did see and use the showring to steer the breed. Show titles as well as working titles are a requirement before your dog is presented to a Kormeister who critiques every point of a dogs structure as well as tests it's working ability and taking the dog around a showring is part of the breed survey if you want to produce a dog according to Max's system. I never said or agree with breeding them to show, but you should show them to breed.

Markobytes, the reason I used Linda's illustrations instead of 'real dogs' was I didn't want to post someone else's dog without permission. I could show you many, many pictures of the two types that look EXACTLY like those drawings! 

I was VERY tempted to post 'real dogs'. If you want to see 'em, send me a PM!

"With a typical workingline stack the far hind leg is in an almost normal position which give the dog a much different appearance."

and the difference?..... one looks normal and one doesn't, lols.

 

The wolf with the greatest endurance demands.

I scratch my head and wonder why all this controversy how a functional dog should look like, do other breeders of performancedogs have such problems to see if the dog can work or not, look at the old GSDs when they actually was used for herding and you get your answear what is the preferd structure for a workingdog, wolf,dingo,african wilddogs are also good examples combining endurance,speed and general atleticism, all this without any manmade opionions and written standrads how they are supposed to look.